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Old 07-21-2017, 09:45 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by MongooseHugger View Post
So they just filmed it? That's psychopathic! At least go get help!
What do you bet that not one of these kids that watched the guy drown had a father who raised him?
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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there shouldn't be any misinterpreting of laws for this. Lots of people trying to trying reach here. While the kids are a-holes...they did nothing illegal.
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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True, if they even had cell signal but in the amount of time it typically takes LE to get anywhere he'd still be dead and it would be a recovery.
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It makes them sicker and more disgraceful, but it doesn't change the ultimate picture IMO. Now, it would be a different thing if these people actively impeded rescue efforts or the such, but that didn't happen. No, they just didn't actively help or attempt to help. Simply put, their laughing and video did not cause or contribute to the man's death.
We do not know whether aid was close by or not. If it was, then not calling 911 did contribute to the man's death.

No one should be compelled to render aid if doing so would expose him to risk of injury or death.

Not attempting to call for aid when the means is available to do so is despicable.

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Old 07-21-2017, 11:18 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You can't punish people for not doing something (unless you're Obama and it's buying health insurance). I love rescue, but not everyone is like me. They were probably under the influence of something or they would have at least called the cops. If they were sober, then they are trash but not criminals. Or, perhaps they were afraid that the cops would come and shoot them like they did to the aussie lady.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:33 PM
 
Location: London
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You can't punish people for not doing something (unless you're Obama and it's buying health insurance). I love rescue, but not everyone is like me. They were probably under the influence of something or they would have at least called the cops. If they were sober, then they are trash but not criminals. Or, perhaps they were afraid that the cops would come and shoot them like they did to the aussie lady.
It's not the last reason. If they were decent people who were just afraid of cops shooting them, they'd at least not laugh at the poor dying man.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:57 AM
 
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You mean like Obamacare?


Anyway, I would think saving a drowning guy would be "basic human morals".
Yes, trying to save a fellow human is the basic human morals; so is not forcing people to do the same.
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Old 07-22-2017, 06:07 AM
 
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But, thank GOD there are people out there who don't feel this way. Many are alive today because someone felt responsible enough to rescue them. Thank GOD for those people who felt responsible enough to save a dying child who was left in a hot car. I can't imagine what this society would be like if nobody ever feel responsible enough to lend a helping hand, not to mention to save a life. I mean we think things are bad now.
Nobody has the legal or moral obligation to save anybody. People do that out of kindness.
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Old 07-22-2017, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Nobody has the legal or moral obligation to save anybody. People do that out of kindness.
You separate kindness from morality?
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Old 07-22-2017, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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What duty did they have to report it? They didn't cause the man to drown or have any direct involvement in the actions that led to his death. The teens were merely in the wrong place at the wrong time. Your position requires a belief that all citizens have a duty to provide services to any other person in an emergency situation without their consent, absent any compensation and with a lack of indemnification from potential liability. If I see someone driving the wrong way on a freeway, do you think that I have a duty to save them from potential harm and should be subject to criminal penalties if I don't?
What a fine human being you grew up to be. This story as well as some of the comments here are nothing short of disgusting. I would think if they saw a motorist driving the wrong way most everyone would at the very least know to call 911. You obviously would simply go get a cup of coffee and ignore the tragedy that is sure to follow. Mom must be so proud of you.

Did those teens have a "duty" to do something, anything, to help that man? Of course they did, amazing you do not understand this. It is called being a human, not a wild animal with no soul or moral compass. They could have done any number of things such as call the police, yell for help, actually help by going into the water. Instead they recorded and enjoyed watching a man die.
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Old 07-22-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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My first thought was what environment they grew up in. I would almost guarantee there was abuse or neglect that led to them never developing empathy.
Well, if said persons grew up in the ghetto, this would likely be the case.
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