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Nice to see GotHere finally acknowledge that what happened at Jamboree does not reflect the values the organization as a whole, with all of its messy parts, aspires to instill in our young people. Never forget that Scouting really happens at the troop level.
This kerfuffle will die down, but the image of Boy Scouts booing and cheering for Trump will not.
When it is time to sign up each year, how many families will wonder how much of this goes on in Boy Scouts and factor that into their decision?
When their teen begs to quit scouting, how many parents will relucantly agree that the cons outweigh the pros?
When Boy Scouts show up at your door with their fundraising appeals, how many folks will decide that they'd rather not support such endeavors?
What on earth are you trying to get to here? YES, GotHere, it was upsetting. Terribly so! But as a former Den Leader, you seem to be cheering the destruction of Scouting, and I simply do not understand that. You too have led the Cub Scout version of the Oath and recited the Law with them as they prepared to cross over to Boy Scouting. Why are you not defending what we teach as more important than ever, even if we progress unsteadily toward our goals or even fail completely at times. If not the Scouts, then who?
"I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree," said Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh. "That was never our intent."
If I were a youth of 13 or so, and present at this jamboree, I would have had fun with 'cheering' and 'booing' at the President's urging, for such is the way of boys (unless they have changed since I was a boy). If I were Mr. Trump, I would not mistake such as thinking that the 40,000 youths agreed with his sentiments. Most probably thought he was a joke.
I was overseas when Mr. Trump made his speech, but the English-speaking news stations I received on the cruise ship certainly referred to said speech. Mr. Trump does garner attention, which he likes, of course.
There are no lack of opportunities to hear how Trump thinks. Anyone with a WiFi connection has a direct line to his mind.
That's not what the Jamboree is about.
Nor is it what Boy Scouts are about.
But if the Scouts had all sat quietly and listened to Trump ramble on, I doubt there would have been much, if any, backlash. It was just Trump being Trump. No big surprise there.
It was the cheering and booing that has every troop in the country reviewing what Scouts stand for.
It was because an adolescent-minded POTUS was able to get a bunch of adolescent boys to join with him in the kind of stuff adolescent boys do.
You remain under the impression that 13-year-old boys in a "Whee! Away from home!" mindset think such things through.
This kerfuffle will die down, but the image of Boy Scouts booing and cheering for Trump will not.
When it is time to sign up each year, how many families will wonder how much of this goes on in Boy Scouts and factor that into their decision?
When their teen begs to quit scouting, how many parents will relucantly agree that the cons outweigh the pros?
When Boy Scouts show up at your door with their fundraising appeals, how many folks will decide that they'd rather not support such endeavors?
The fact of the matter is that BSA has been attacked by BOTH the far left and far right and we've suffered as a result already.
This reaction by the Scouts at Jambo will certainly go down as self inflicted, but let's not get lost in the fact Trump found an easy audience to roil- teenage boys.
You should have seen the awkward displays of behavior a few years ago at our state wide camporee when Miss Montana Teen Rodeo Queen hung out with the guys, lol.
I mean sometimes you can't overcome teenage male stupidity, which seems where the President himself is stuck at.
If I were a youth of 13 or so, and present at this jamboree, I would have had fun with 'cheering' and 'booing' at the President's urging, for such is the way of boys (unless they have changed since I was a boy). If I were Mr. Trump, I would not mistake such as thinking that the 40,000 youths agreed with his sentiments. Most probably thought he was a joke.
Nice to see GotHere finally acknowledge that what happened at Jamboree does not reflect the values the organization as a whole, with all of its messy parts, aspires to instill in our young people. Never forget that Scouting really happens at the troop level.
I don't acknowledge that.
What happened at the Jamboree reflects on the values of the organization as a whole. That the leadership let this go on and then gave such a weak response to criticism, makes it clear that the BSA organization is fine with this.
That the Scouts booed a former President and cheered Trump's nasty comments tells me the character development mission has gone astray. What kind of values are you instilling in these boys anyway?
There may be wonderful things happening at the troop level. Who knows?
But at the organization level, Boy Scouts of America aligned themselves with Trump and his nonsense.
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