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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 09-27-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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How i feel...done with the NFL.
As long as the Texans remain standing, I'll watch and cheer for them; however, if a knee hits during the anthem, I'm done.

 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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I didn't know you could "fire" a volunteer. So no, he's not out of a job. Which seems to be what a couple of you think.

Tell you what will happen, since volunteer departments generally elect their officers every year or two years. He'll remain a member of the department, likely remain on the board of directors.
So, you are defending what he said? Explain your post.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I don't care what they do, but I DO know many others that are not either. Again, they are no longer relevant to me. So.........

Just can't tolerate when someone else exercises their right to free speech, huh? I bet you call yourself a "patriot" don't you?
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Geez. Whether you support it or are against it, one thing is for sure: taking a knee is working. The players are drawing the attention to the issues like they wanted. The NFL has dominated the front page of the political section for the last several days.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:52 AM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
I see you are completely lacking in facts once again:

Cowboys kneel, then stand with locked arms for anthem - CNN

They knelt before the anthem and then ALL stood prior to the anthem starting and through it.
You are moving the goalposts again. They DID do a protest, on the field, and Jerry participated in it. You can claim, correctly (I assume) that they stood during the anthem, but the fact remains, they made a clear statement, in solidarity with the players, not Trump, by taking the knee.

It is my OPINION that they had to come up with a way to save face for their boss, and so did he. The compromise was take the knee before, so they can stand during. But the argument that has been given is that these rich, black people don't get to have a voice because they are there to entertain us, and they don't suffer because they are overpaid, so they seem to have no rights to speak up for other Americans. That was rejected, they made the statement. They used their platform to do good for the nation, not simply to earn their ticket price.

Are you going to tell me they are in solidarity with the President? If you do, I'd have to disagree.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:53 AM
 
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If the only time they kneel is when the anthem is played, then yes they are doing it to say the flag is not their flag. They're not kneeling when giving interviews after a game. They're not kneeling when they get to the register at the grocery store or when they buy gas. If their message is something other than they don't like the US, why is their kneeling message restricted to when the anthem is played? Shouldn't they be looking to convey their message at every opportunity?
Kneeling has NEVER been a sign of disrespect. Never.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Just can't tolerate when someone else exercises their right to free speech, huh? I bet you call yourself a "patriot" don't you?
Again, not a free speech issue. Maybe read the Constitution, and/or take some law, or civics courses? mmmmkay?
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:54 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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He's likely referring to the boos and (sometimes racist) chants from the crowd that are directed at the players who kneel.
i've heard nothing about 'racist chants.' do you have a link?
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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Lock them up!!!

I must have missed where Pilot1 has said anywhere that the government should take any action. Choose to point that out?

People upset about these players disrespecting our nation are choosing not to participate.

Are you one of those people who believe that is a violation of the 1st?

BTW, if actual fans weren't leaving the NFL, Direct TV wouldn't have to worry about refunds.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/d...d-by-protests/
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:55 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Two of the first three posts were.........inaccurate.
well, that's an extremely kind way of putting it...
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