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I think people just throw in the troops to give their resentment an emotional shield. The bottom line is that conservative type people just don't want to hear what other people have to say or deal with America looked at from a different lens. Very few conservatives watch MSNBC or anything, such as CNN, that they think has a liberal point of view. Conservatives only want to have to deal with people who are "just like them" and who think like them. They do not want a diversity of thoughts or opinions. Hence, they are upset because there is no CFL....Conservative Football League that they can turn too and not see people making liberal freedoms of expression. It does not matter that 99% of the people were behaving in a way that they approve......they want a football league where 100% of the people behave in a way that they approve....OR ELSE!
Geez. Whether you support it or are against it, one thing is for sure: taking a knee is working. The players are drawing the attention to the issues like they wanted. The NFL has dominated the front page of the political section for the last several days.
No it's not working. The only thing its drawing attention to is the NFL and who is or is not a "patriot". Kap's message has been lost.
So, you are defending what he said? Explain your post.
The thread title is inaccurate, he wasn't "fired" he resigned. Resigned from a volunteer position. Your post wasn't even on the radar.
The posts I was referencing were the thread starter and the third one. Yours was the second. You bragged about being prescient. Now, if you claimed that the individual would be fired in your prediction then you also were inaccurate.
Either that or several people don't don't know the difference between volunteer and paid firefighters.
That has been answered NUMEROUS times in this thread and across the internet. If you don't know by now, its because you don't WANT to know.
Exactly. They are "protesting" in support of a racist hate group that incites violence and calls for the murder of police officers. If you don't know that, it's because you don't WANT to know.
You are moving the goalposts again. They DID do a protest, on the field, and Jerry participated in it. You can claim, correctly (I assume) that they stood during the anthem, but the fact remains, they made a clear statement, in solidarity with the players, not Trump, by taking the knee.
It is my OPINION that they had to come up with a way to save face for their boss, and so did he. The compromise was take the knee before, so they can stand during. But the argument that has been given is that these rich, black people don't get to have a voice because they are there to entertain us, and they don't suffer because they are overpaid, so they seem to have no rights to speak up for other Americans. That was rejected, they made the statement. They used their platform to do good for the nation, not simply to earn their ticket price.
Are you going to tell me they are in solidarity with the President? If you do, I'd have to disagree.
yes the team did do a protest, with jones right there with them. in fact jones led that protest. but they did it BEFORE the anthem. the team stood for the anthem.
as i have said, they have a right to protest peacefully in what ever manner they choose, but there are times when that protest should not be done. they have a message they want to get out to the country, great, i have no problem with that. there are many ways to get that message out where it will be heard. remember these guys have star power behind them right now. they can get out on the talk show circuit, the news shows, the radio, the city councils around the country, the state legislatures, the magazines, newspapers, etc.
there are a ton of outlets, why do something that makes huge numbers of people mad at you? why do something that will alienate the very people you want to reach?
this is part of the problem with dividing the country, it becomes that much harder to get the real message out. kaepernick had a golden opportunity before he started kneeling over a year ago, to get his message out, and we would be talking about that right now, and there would be a huge voice in support of his effort. but now we have people that are divided, the NFL is losing support, and the issue is lining up to be just like the global warming issue where both sides are going to make arguments and counterarguments, everyone is going to get angry at the other side, and nothing will get done.
nice job guys lets take an issue that probably could have been solved will now end up being another point of contention.
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