Mississippi cop tasered pregnant woman in the stomach even as she begged them to stop

[YourWakeUpCall]

Originally Posted by pknopp

He has no business asking for a license from someone that has done nothing wrong up to that point.

A police officer can "ask" anything. There's a difference between asking and demanding under color of authority. Choose you words carefully.

Your poor selection of words notwithstanding, a police officer can absolutely demand your ID if you've done nothing wrong. He/she may have probable cause to believe you have committed a crime. Said probable cause may be based on facts and information of which you are unaware. Probably cause is not irrefutable evidence and sometimes the information the police officer is using to establish probable cause is incorrect. None of which changes that fact the he/she has probable cause and is therefore allowed to demand that you identify yourself. This scenario may or may not have applied to this particular case, but to state that a police officer has no right to ask you to identify yourself because you've done nothing wrong is demonstrably incorrect and is going to get you in trouble some day. You aren't one of those "sovereign citizen" goof balls, are you? Their incredibly misunderstanding of their rights is breathtaking.

[YourWakeUpCall]

Originally Posted by pknopp

He was killed because he refused to allow the officers to violate his rights. He was not selling cigarettes. He had none on him. He was simply recognized as someone who had in the past and the hyped up cops not finding a fight had to pick one of their own.

They had zero justification to search him. None.

You are correct. I used a poor example.

[kell490]

I would rather see the police using tasers then a club which is what they used to use more often and lot of officers got stabbed that way or just going to the firearm sooner.

We ask the police to uphold the law and be a barrier between civilized and uncivilized people. Police don't have the luxury to check with liberals, local news, and civic leaders how to handle each traffic stop. They have to make a split second decision on the spot what to do or they end up dead. Body cameras have been an improvement to get rid of the cops which are bad there are more than just a few bad cops. During a traffic stop the officer has to keep control of the situation lot of times someone will end up dead more than often it's the police. I never see any discussion here about police getting shot.


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[pknopp]

Originally Posted by YourWakeUpCall

A police officer can "ask" anything. There's a difference between asking and demanding under color of authority. Choose you words carefully.

I disagree. Where he has no legal authority to ask for something, he should not be able to even ask. When a police officer "asks" for something it's too fine of a line to say they are not demanding it.

Your poor selection of words notwithstanding, a police officer can absolutely demand your ID if you've done nothing wrong. He/she may have probable cause to believe you have committed a crime. Said probable cause may be based on facts and information of which you are unaware. Probably cause is not irrefutable evidence and sometimes the information the police officer is using to establish probable cause is incorrect. None of which changes that fact the he/she has probable cause and is therefore allowed to demand that you identify yourself. This scenario may or may not have applied to this particular case, but to state that a police officer has no right to ask you to identify yourself because you've done nothing wrong is demonstrably incorrect and is going to get you in trouble some day. You aren't one of those "sovereign citizen" goof balls, are you? Their incredibly misunderstanding of their rights is breathtaking.

I had already covered this. They must have a probable cause they can express. "I'm suspicious" is not enough. If there was a murder and the suspect is described as a young very tall male and you are in a car fleeing town and are 22 and 6 foot 5, then they can ask.

I posted the Supreme Court ruling. I also stated he had "no business" not "no right".

[Freemore]

Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust

Interesting theory. Try it on yourself and let us know.

My thought exactly. Might help with reading comprehension.