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When you are stopped by a cop you do NOT get out of the car unless they ask you to. Period. If you do and they tell you to get back in the car but you refuse, you have automatically escalated the situation. Especially if there are two or more of you and certainly if the cop is alone.
When you are stopped by a cop you do NOT get out of the car unless they ask you to. Period. If you do and they tell you to get back in the car but you refuse, you have automatically escalated the situation. Especially if there are two or more of you and certainly if the cop is alone.
Sure.
And because trained police officers have the right to defend themselves using deadly force and untrained citizens do not - the trained police officers are obligated to use deadly force as a last resort and use whatever means they can to deescalate the situation.
And because trained police officers have the right to defend themselves using deadly force and untrained citizens do not - the trained police officers are obligated to use deadly force as a last resort and use whatever means they can to deescalate the situation.
If they do not do this then they are responsible
Sure. Next time you are in a situation with police don't comply and see what happens. Your actions will determine the outcome in 99.9% of situations.
Sure. Next time you are in a situation with police don't comply and see what happens. Your actions will determine the outcome in 99.9% of situations.
What a twisted point of view
Let's look it from a different one
Jackass cop: Next time a perp doesn't comply, let them see what happens. I'm 100% in control of the situation.
Now that that's out of the way, let's try to look at it from a reasonable point of view.
Since trained officers of the law have the right to use deadly force if threatened while untrained citizens do not, it is the obligation of the officers to use that force as a last resort and do everything they can to deescalate a situation.
Since trained officers of the law have the right to use deadly force if threatened while untrained citizens do not, it is the obligation of the officers to use that force as a last resort and do everything they can to deescalate a situation.
Of course it is. But that does not change what I said.
Something else that is becoming alarmingly common is ignoring the context of a situation.
Note the post that was being responded to.
I'm not sure if people like you just aren't capable of recognizing these nuances or if you're resorting to hyperbole intentionally. In either case, you're bringing nothing valid to this debate with your baseless rhetoric.
I didn't ignore the context of the situation because I wasn't comment on the situation, I was responding to the wording of the post. Ironically, you're one who's guilty of ignoring context.
Read the article. She wasn't arrested for simply being in a car when the driver was driving illegally.
You're using a twisted type of logic that is becoming alarmingly common lately. My theory is that click-bait news articles use this approach and it has started to infect the general population.
One recent example is the Eric Garner case. When this unfortunate death took place, there were tons of articles, blog posts, etc., proclaiming he was killed for selling loose cigarettes. Not true. He died during a scuffle with police while resisting arrest for selling loose cigarettes. Two entirely different things.
I'm not sure if people like you just aren't capable of recognizing these nuances or if you're resorting to hyperbole intentionally. In either case, you're bringing nothing valid to this debate with you baseless rhetoric.
He was killed because he refused to allow the officers to violate his rights. He was not selling cigarettes. He had none on him. He was simply recognized as someone who had in the past and the hyped up cops not finding a fight had to pick one of their own.
And because trained police officers have the right to defend themselves using deadly force and untrained citizens do not - the trained police officers are obligated to use deadly force as a last resort and use whatever means they can to deescalate the situation.
If they do not do this then they are responsible
Citizens most certainly do have a legal right to protect themselves even up to taking a life if need be and this applies to a police officer also.
That is not how the law works. There is no law that makes one guilty by association. I can not be arrested if I am in a car and the driver is driving illegally.
The officer did not know that at the time. You can not demand I.D. because someone might have a warrant.
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