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You know, I'm so glad I live in one of the more level headed states in the country. Seems like all these stories of officer shooting and excessive force drama don't happen much around here
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Originally Posted by AfriqueNY
When somebody is abused by the police (person they don't relate to) it's " obey and be cowed".
60 years ago, that literally was the case. Problem is, there are still lot of cops that haven't gotten that memo yet.
I don't know why people choose to fight with the police, and not just go to court and deal with it court of law is where we fight our disputes not on the side of the road.
I don't know why people choose to fight with the police, and not just go to court and deal with it court of law is where we fight our disputes not on the side of the road.
Anyone in the car can be asked. Next time you are a passenger in a car that is pulled over and the cop asks you to ID yourself, tell him no and see what happens. I bet you get detained until they figure out who you are. Remember, all the cop has to say is that he is suspicious of your behavior as to why you won't ID yourself.
In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada the Supreme Court ruled that a police officer must have an "articular reasonable suspicion of criminality" to demand that one identify themselves.
He can not simply say he was suspicious. He must be able to state exactly what he is suspicious of you doing. This case is complicated by the fact that she was with someone that was doing something illegal. That alone is not is not a suspicion of a crime BUT what he did could lead to one if the police officers had wanted to take the steps to have made it so.
They could have confiscated the car, called in a warrant and then searched it. Finding contraband probably would have gave them a reasonable stated suspicion. As far as I've seen this had not happened yet when they had tased her. She messed up also by not saying the correct things.
"Am I free to leave and if not, why not"? She could simply call for someone else to come get the car and the officer would not have a reason up to that point to ask for her I.D. He really had no justification up to that point but could have probably came up with one if she would have drove off. Being wanted, she needed to simply call someone and state that she did not drive then shut her mouth.
Yeah but, black people are always looking for a confrontation and asking for it. Or so I've heard on C-D....
They were asking for it the second the driver pulled away from the curb without possessing a valid license. That was one reason she was being asked for ID, so that if she had a license the cop could surrender the car to her and she could drive it to where ever it was they were headed.
They were asking for it the second the driver pulled away from the curb without possessing a valid license.
I did not see where that happened. Could you point it out for me?
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That was one reason she was being asked for ID, so that if she had a license the cop could surrender the car to her and she could drive it to where ever it was they were headed.
He has no business asking for a license from someone that has done nothing wrong up to that point. She handled it poorly but it is what you need to know your rights.
"I do not drive, I am going to call someone to come get the car".
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over what is or isn't legal ?
