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Old 10-19-2017, 12:51 PM
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And yet I took Spanish starting in 8th grade, and continued it in college, and I was never taught the conjugations for verbs for the personal pronoun Vosotros. The explanation was that Spanish speakers in Latin America and the Caribbean don't use that, they use Ustedes when they want to say "You" in the plural sense. 4 years of high school Spanish (and I took the 1992 NYS Regents Exam - back in those days Regents was reserved for the top echelon of students) and 3 years of college Spanish.
I went to school in the 70's and as I stated those that took it learned Castilian Spanish, I know Western Hemisphere Spanish is now being taught and your teachers background determines how you learn to annunciate the words. Even today there are different words among English speaking countries, when I was in the service we often heard "I understand English its American we can comprehend"
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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You have the right to express your opinion, and I have the right to call you out on it. Classroom disruption is one thing, but calling someone out because they are speaking a language you don't like, is a whole other issue. You are the latter. This teacher, and you, wouldn't be talking nonsense if these were white students speaking German, and no one on here would be calling German "gibberish" or a "foreign tongue", which are loaded words
Rather ironic you bring that up, considering what the roots of the English language actually are. I've heard Old English spoken, and have read it in print (had to read of the Canterbury Tales for a college class). One of my professors did his dissertation on the subject.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Excusez moi, s'il vous plait, but I think you know precisely what I mean.
Yo puedo comprender tu punta de vista.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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I went to school in the 70's and as I stated those that took it learned Castilian Spanish, I know Western Hemisphere Spanish is now being taught and your teachers background determines how you learn to annunciate the words. Even today there are different words among English speaking countries, when I was in the service we often heard "I understand English its American we can comprehend"
I started taking Spanish in 1988, so it's not very recent. I couldn't tell you what is being taught now. I've been out of school entirely, including college, for 17 years.

Actually, my pronunciation is similar to Puerto Rican, because I have a number of friends who are Puerto Rican, including a guy I dated for 8 years, so I started speaking in that vein, like pronouncing my y's like j's. When I did go to PR, in 2004 and 2005, I was fooling a lot of people as to whether I was a native or not.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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I went to school in the 70's and as I stated those that took it learned Castilian Spanish, I know Western Hemisphere Spanish is now being taught and your teachers background determines how you learn to annunciate the words. Even today there are different words among English speaking countries, when I was in the service we often heard "I understand English its American we can comprehend"
Lord when my Colombian step-grandmother found out my Spanish teacher in middle school was Puerto Rican she flipped a lid and quizzed me on "How is she telling you how to say _______?!" .... with appropriate corrections as she saw necessary.


Mexican Spanish is the easiest for me to understand and communicate in now, because it's slower. Castilian is still the prettiest accent though, IMO
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Lord when my Colombian step-grandmother found out my Spanish teacher in middle school was Puerto Rican she flipped a lid and quizzed me on "How is she telling you how to say _______?!" .... with appropriate corrections as she saw necessary.


Mexican Spanish is the easiest for me to understand and communicate in now, because it's slower. Castilian is still the prettiest accent though, IMO
I used to know a good deal of both Puerto Rican and Dominican slang, because my ex-bf's best friends were all Dominican. That's the sucky part of us breaking up, the loss of cultural immersion.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:48 PM
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Lord when my Colombian step-grandmother found out my Spanish teacher in middle school was Puerto Rican she flipped a lid and quizzed me on "How is she telling you how to say _______?!" .... with appropriate corrections as she saw necessary.


Mexican Spanish is the easiest for me to understand and communicate in now, because it's slower. Castilian is still the prettiest accent though, IMO
I have heard Cuban described as Castilian Spanish spoken at Mach 5 and the truest one to proper Spanish.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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I used to know a good deal of both Puerto Rican and Dominican slang, because my ex-bf's best friends were all Dominican. That's the sucky part of us breaking up, the loss of cultural immersion.
Living in South Florida I know a lot of the Caribbean Spanish slang.

But, I've been chastised by both Mexicans and Colombians if I use it in their presence, lol.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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I have hear Cuban described as Castilian Spanish spoken at Mach 5 and the truest one to proper Spanish.

Wouldn't surprise me since so many Cubans (at least in Florida) claim to be temporarily embarrassed Spaniards fresh off the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria!
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Old 10-19-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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1. The bad behavior "was" speaking in a foreign language at an inappropriate time.

2. It's not just speaking Spanish that is divisive at certain times. Your sarcastic remark is duly noted and 'Murican is offensive.


3. Nothing wrong with being bi-lingual or speaking a foreign language in private but not while class is in session. You fail to grasp that.
1. The bad behavior was being disruptive. End of story.

2. You were the one who said the Spanish language was divisive, not I. Own it.

3. Addressing the point made about being "truly" bilingual.
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