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Old 01-28-2018, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Marriage is just a legal contract. They could still be together, and do whatever they wanted. I have no problem with Gays marrying. With how promiscuous the Gay community is the divorce lawyers will be kept even busier.
Actually a few studies suggest Gay couples marriages are more stable than Straight marriages.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-straight-ones
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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Marriage is just a legal contract. They could still be together, and do whatever they wanted. I have no problem with Gays marrying. With how promiscuous the Gay community is the divorce lawyers will be kept even busier.


Marriage is just a little more than a legal contract. State recognized marriage confers benefits and responsibilities from the state , and by extension from private companies , that a simple legal contract cant. No legal contract can force the US to recognize a gay spouse as a survivor able to receive SS benefits, or that can force a private company to recognize a gay spouse on an employees pension or insurance.


Allowing gays to marry legally in the eyes of the government confers such things, as well as right to life decisions, and some responsibilities , such as financial responsibility for debts in certain states.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Their are choices in life. Own who you are and wear it like a badge of honor. Or let your conscious run your life.
I chose to not lie to a women her whole life and put up some facade of being straight, to please people like you, when I clearly was not. I chose to be honest with myself and others about my sexual and emotional attraction to men. If you can't understand that simple concept, then I can't help you.
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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We don't like gay marriage yet you want to force us to engage with it. So your argument really is hypocritical.



We can refuse public accomodation based on a practice, an event or activity. That has NOTHING to do with the individual's personal identity which is the basis for discrimination law. A gay man walks into a pet store and tells the owner that he wants to buy some cute dogs to BBQ and eat them. The owner refuses to sell. The owner is not discriminating because the man is gay. He is discriminating against the practice.

Get the difference??



Discrimination is a broad base term that can be used to enslave people.
Your arguments stated above are rubbish.

The pet store case is a red herring.

Try again.

"Discrimination is a broad based term that can be used to enslave people?" Really, thank you for demonstrating the scope of your intellectual prowess.
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Old 01-28-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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That is correct. The uninformed can use whictever terminology they wish. No one holds idiots to any kind of standard.

I don't correct the grammar and syntax of that dude, standing on the street corner, yelling at the world.


The term mental illness was long accepted as an accurate description for having your brain cause you to regard yourself being the opposite sex from your reproductive system , and aptly so , until PCness set in. Something is definitely out of order with a person having a penis thinking he is a female and having gender issues because of this disparity between body and mind. It is not wrong or idiotic to call cancer an illness, and neither is it wrong to call a condition that causes a male to feel like he is a female trapped in a male body an illness. One is an illness of the body, the other is an illness of the mind. Using different words and terms does not change this reality , nor does it make honestly assessing the situation idiotic.
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Old 01-28-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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And the anti-discrimination laws break the great law that came way before it. The FIRST AMENDMENT.
I'll leave the analysis to the experts, thank you. SCOTUS is deciding.
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Old 01-28-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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Your WRONG. The bible clearly says homosexuals and transsexuals are abominations to God. Do you know what abomination is? It means to have hatred for. It's how the Westboro Baptist Church members in Topeka came up with their phrase "God hates fa*gs".
You're wrong about what the Bible says, and you're about the Westboro people. They're not doing anything because they're Christians; they're a litigation scam, and they're doing stuff to make money. They do something outrageous, provoke a reaction, and then sue on the grounds their civil rights were violated. They pretend to be a church to get tax-exempt status.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:02 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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So everyone has their own locker room for extracurricular sports activities? Complete privacy?
So . . everyone changes at the school? No one goes home and comes back for practice?

You are determined to make a problem when there really isn't one.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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For example, there are numerous cases where Christian florists or bakers or photographers have been financially ruined and driven out of business because they didn't want to provide their services to a gay wedding ceremony. Would it have really hurt the offended parties to just go and find someone else to provide them the services they want? Is it really necessary to destroy someone who disagrees with you?
So, by that measure, would you support a business owner whose sincerely-held religious beliefs compelled them to discriminate against the disabled, or interracial couples?
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:26 PM
 
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So . . everyone changes at the school? No one goes home and comes back for practice?

You are determined to make a problem when there really isn't one.




No, if one is arguing for people of one sex to be able to use the locker room of the opposite sex simply because they feel like the opposite sex themselves, a problem does exists, and it is caused by the people trying to use the wrong locker rooms designed for changing clothes and showering, which inherently involves nudity , and often involves mixing adults and young children in the same dressing and showering areas.




The obvious solution is for the transgendered to act like intelligent adults instead of spoiled brats, understand they have a gender identity issue that is their problem to deal with , and use the lockers of their bio sex. Even if it makes them feel uncomfortable. They have no right to insist that everyone else in the room must accept being made uncomfortable by their presence so they themselves are satisfied. Time for them to grow up.
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