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Old 02-19-2018, 07:24 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
The President of the United States was presented with evidence our country was attacked by a foreign power and his reaction: "This proves I'm innocent."

He didn't say a word about the attack on the country.

He didn't say a word about defending us.

Let that sink in for a moment.

I would not either, after you accused me for 1-1/2 years for it.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Donna-501 View Post
Far left? Obama was more to the right than George W.
Possibly, but Bush was awfully far to the Left himself.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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Possibly, but Bush was awfully far to the Left himself.
No he wasn’t.

Stop kidding yourself.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Relaxx View Post
No he wasn’t.

Stop kidding yourself.
I haven't been able to figure whether a president arguing that they can ignore a citizens due process rights is right or left as both Bush and Obama argued it.

Perhaps it is it's own classification of evil.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: The 719
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
The President of the United States was presented with evidence our country was attacked by a foreign power and his reaction: "This proves I'm innocent."

He didn't say a word about the attack on the country.

He didn't say a word about defending us.

Let that sink in for a moment.
What needs to sink in is that the "Intelligence Community" attacked him, as well as the weaponized DOJ, Obama Administration, Clinton Campaign, the Media, Academia, Hollywood, etc. And he still still still kicked all of their ass ass ass.

There is no Russian collusion fools, oh, except for all of the above except for Trump. You posters are complicit in Russian collusion yourselves.

Let that sink in.

Also, their was no obstruction by Trump.

... oh, except for all of the above except for Trump. You posters are complicit in obstruction yourselves.

Let that sink in.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by McGowdog View Post
What needs to sink in is that the "Intelligence Community" attacked him, as well as the weaponized DOJ, Obama Administration, Clinton Campaign, the Media, Academia, Hollywood, etc. And he still still still kicked all of their ass ass ass.

There is no Russian collusion fools, oh, except for all of the above except for Trump. You posters are complicit in Russian collusion yourselves.

Let that sink in.

Also, their was no obstruction by Trump.

... oh, except for all of the above except for Trump. You posters are complicit in obstruction yourselves.

Let that sink in.

Your boy tRump is such a "stable genius" that even before his inauguration, he picked a fight with the FBI and intel communities. And he did it to try to run cover for his Russian follies.

Stay tuned.

For Trumplings, it's a bad dream you can't wake up from.

Carry on.

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Old 02-19-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
Here is a list of some of the known US interferences in other nation's elections over the years. Surely there are others. But these at least are documented.

2016: UK (verbal intervention against Brexit)
2014: Afghanistan (effectively re-writing Afghan constitution)
2014: UK (verbal intervention against Scottish independence)
2011: Libya (providing support to overthrow Colonel Gaddafi)
2009: Honduras (ousting President Zelaya)
2006: Palestine (providing support to oust Prime Minister Haniyeh)
2005: Syria (providing support against President al-Assad)
2003: Iran (providing support against President Khatami)-
2003: Iraq (ousting of President Hussein)
2002: Venezuela (providing support to attempt an overthrow of President Chavez)
1999: Yugoslavia (removing Yugoslav forces from Kosovo)
1994: Iraq (attempted overthrow of President Hussein)
1991: Haiti (ousting President Aristide)
1991: Kuwait (removing Iraqi forces from Kuwait)
1989: Panama (ousting General Noriega)
1983: Grenada (ousting General Austin's Marxist forces)
1982: Nicaragua (providing support
1971: Chile (ousting President Allende)
1967: Indonesia (ousting President Sukarno)
1964: Brazil (ousting President Goulart)
1964: Chile (providing support against Salvador Allende)
1961: Congo (assassination of leader Lumumba)
1958: Lebanon (providing support to Christian political parties)
1954: Guatemala (ousting President Arbenz)
1953: Iran (ousting Prime Minister Mossadegh)
1953: Philippines (providing support to the President Magsaysay campaign)
1948: Italy (providing support to the Christian Democrats campaign)
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But, you conservatives supposed to love your country more than anyone else, to let y'all tell it. But here, you are calling your country out and trying to make them look bad, at the expense of trying to make Trump look not so bad. You are a good soldier for the Russians, doing exactly what they want. Nice
A list of the instances of Russian interference can surely be put together that is at least this long. So this sort of conduct is not the big international surprise or outrage that some are trying to portray it as.

Each country of course should protect itself from this sort of interference. But it is not 'immoral' for a country to try to do this to another. Likewise, it is a crime for foreign countries to spy on us (here), but it is not a crime (here) for us to spy on other countries. Like it or not, it is the same for the Russians.

We need to be smart enough to hold both of these thoughts in our heads at the same time.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Well the left really believed she was the most qualified candidates ever or so they said. So that might be why.
No, we said she was far more qualified than Trump. She was educated, had experience, and knew how the government works and who all the players on the world stage were, whereas Trump was the opposite of all of these things.


We were excruciatingly right, down to the last jot and tittle. Now America is paying dearly for its mistake, and apparently on the way to having to remove another crooked republican president.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
Here is a list of some of the known US interferences in other nation's elections over the years. Surely there are others. But these at least are documented.

2016: UK (verbal intervention against Brexit)
2014: Afghanistan (effectively re-writing Afghan constitution)
2014: UK (verbal intervention against Scottish independence)
2011: Libya (providing support to overthrow Colonel Gaddafi)
2009: Honduras (ousting President Zelaya)
2006: Palestine (providing support to oust Prime Minister Haniyeh)
2005: Syria (providing support against President al-Assad)
2003: Iran (providing support against President Khatami)-
2003: Iraq (ousting of President Hussein)
2002: Venezuela (providing support to attempt an overthrow of President Chavez)
1999: Yugoslavia (removing Yugoslav forces from Kosovo)
1994: Iraq (attempted overthrow of President Hussein)
1991: Haiti (ousting President Aristide)
1991: Kuwait (removing Iraqi forces from Kuwait)
1989: Panama (ousting General Noriega)
1983: Grenada (ousting General Austin's Marxist forces)
1982: Nicaragua (providing support
1971: Chile (ousting President Allende)
1967: Indonesia (ousting President Sukarno)
1964: Brazil (ousting President Goulart)
1964: Chile (providing support against Salvador Allende)
1961: Congo (assassination of leader Lumumba)
1958: Lebanon (providing support to Christian political parties)
1954: Guatemala (ousting President Arbenz)
1953: Iran (ousting Prime Minister Mossadegh)
1953: Philippines (providing support to the President Magsaysay campaign)
1948: Italy (providing support to the Christian Democrats campaign)
So, if I'm reading this correctly, you are using the United States as a bad example to excuse and protect Russia and its actions? You really do believe Russia owns Trump, don't you, comrade...?
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Had I, an American, done what the indictments against these 13 Russian trolls says they did, I would not be indicted. It is not illegal. How many people here have fake names on their twitter account? Facebook?
You're wrong. You would have been indicted if you were doing it working for a hostile foreign government.
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