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How did the clerk know that the dude who pulled the gun wasn't some crazy mentally deranged fella who would have shot the first person to make a move or say a word?
Of course - the answer is he didn't.
Remember, an armed society is a polite society. Therefore, when confronted with a gun pointed in his direction, the clerk was polite - and quiet.
The gunman identified himself as a cop.
And he is a cop.
All of his words were directed at the customer he suspected of not paying.
As it turns out, he was wrong about that. The clerk was perfectly positioned to defuse it completely.
Of course, you're free to react to this whole incident as you wish.
well that depends on the situation, i mean if the guy had a gun on the clerk, then the cop would have been justified pulling his gun out. or how about when armed robbers are ribbing a bank, do you think that cops should just walk in without pulling the guns first?
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Well, if the "armed robber" is me walking away from an ATM machine, I don't think an off-duty Police Officer should pull a gun. If the "armed robber" are the guys from the Brinks truck....same goes.
On the other hand, if the cop receives a radio call that an armed bank robbery is in progress, then perhaps brandishing a weapon is in order.
Those who cannot differentiate between such events as above don't deserve a badge...or a gun.
The big problem these days is that a Cop is more likely to shoot you in such a situation than a regular citizen - because they will get away with it, while the average joe or jane cannot.
So being a Cop and stating so would make me feel MORE in danger. On the other hand, if the guy had a AR, I'd probably be even more scared than death-by-cop.
You'll have to excuse me because cops shot my autistic nephew...at a time and place where he posed zero danger to the public.
Well, if the "armed robber" is me walking away from an ATM machine, I don't think an off-duty Police Officer should pull a gun. If the "armed robber" are the guys from the Brinks truck....same goes.
On the other hand, if the cop receives a radio call that an armed bank robbery is in progress, then perhaps brandishing a weapon is in order.
Those who cannot differentiate between such events as above don't deserve a badge...or a gun.
why does a cop have to receive a radio call about an armed robbery in a bank to pull his gun? suppose that off duty officer was about to walk into the bank when he saw an armed man holding up the bank teller, isnt he required to respond right then and there? would he be shirking his duty if he didnt respond to the crime actually occurring?
why does a cop have to receive a radio call about an armed robbery in a bank to pull his gun? suppose that off duty officer was about to walk into the bank when he saw an armed man holding up the bank teller, isnt he required to respond right then and there? would he be shirking his duty if he didnt respond to the crime actually occurring?
In that hypothetical situation which would likely never happen, then he may or may not have the right (I suppose it depends on his position, contract, training, local - state and federal laws)....
But this was not that. Not even close.
If the till were open and the clerk was shoveling cash toward a guy with a gun...or even a guy with a baseball bat threatening the clerk...then, yeah, that's where the line is drawn. He can pull then....assuming he is trained.
Remember, just because you are a cop doesn't mean you are up to date in terms of street training. Some of them go their entire careers and never drawn a gun in anger....not exactly what we'd call experienced.
In the OC, chances are they often find shoplifters - made-up gals with breast implants at the local malls trying to sneak out with some article of clothing or makeup. I doubt they pull gun on them, tho, as they get in their valet-delivered Porsche.
Well, if the "armed robber" is me walking away from an ATM machine, I don't think an off-duty Police Officer should pull a gun. If the "armed robber" are the guys from the Brinks truck....same goes.
On the other hand, if the cop receives a radio call that an armed bank robbery is in progress, then perhaps brandishing a weapon is in order.
Those who cannot differentiate between such events as above don't deserve a badge...or a gun.
Certainly a pack of Mentos doesn't warrant 'brandishing a weapon".
The cop didn't see this guy pay for the item, only saw him reach over the counter to grab the mints instead of the sales clerk handing it over. The clerk should have spoken up sooner. THE COP APOLOGIZED.
Much ado about nothing. Good thing the customer wasn't black or the taxpayers would be on the hook for a fat settlement.
Having a gun pointed at you isn't much ado about nothing -if it happened to me, only a beating of the cop would suffice.
No excuses for this renegade cop. I agree that he should be fired or at least a lengthy suspension with a major retraining. Hopefully, he is being ridiculed by his peers and the community.
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