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Old 06-08-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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but the unions (which as I said WERE a good thing once upon a time) have become the monsters of a corporation...unions are a corporation( a corporation is a group of people with like ideas) they have boards and leadership... they constantly are lobbying and bribing congress..... they have become what they were designed to fight against
You have a choice. Either join the labor union movement and fix what you think needs to be fixed. Or get crushed by the ruling billionaire class. There really is no other choice for you and the working class. Which side are you on? Do you have the guts to take on the ruling class? Or do you prefer to vote for their puppets?
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:49 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So you dont know the difference between "average" and "median". Its like saying the US has a higher GDP per capita than Germany or Sweden. It means nothing. When you dont understand what "average" means why should we take you seriously? The GDP per capita of the US has almost doubled in 40 years. Yet, median hourly incomes of the working class has declined. People work longer hours for lower pay. The average has skyrocketed on the other hand. Wall Street love it.
I'm sure you're also aware that Sweden has a higher poverty rate than the US, no?
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So you dont know the difference between "average" and "median". Its like saying the US has a higher GDP per capita than Germany or Sweden. It means nothing. When you dont understand what "average" means why should we take you seriously? The GDP per capita of the US has almost doubled in 40 years. Yet, median hourly incomes of the working class has declined. People work longer hours for lower pay. The average has skyrocketed on the other hand. Wall Street love it.
the median household yearly income 1970......$7600
the median household yearly income 2018......$61,770

median hourly incomes of the working class has declined.????? where ….in what world or math class is 61k a decline from 7.6k???
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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You have a choice. Either join the labor union movement and fix what you think needs to be fixed. Or get crushed by the ruling billionaire class. There really is no other choice for you and the working class. Which side are you on? Do you have the guts to take on the ruling class? Or do you prefer to vote for their puppets?
the unions have become the puppetmasters…...sorry you are too blind to see that
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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You have to have paid tens of million of dollars in Medicare taxes to be so sure of that.
The average cost of Medicare per senior is "tens of millions?" I sincerely doubt that.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:53 PM
 
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the median household yearly income 1970......$7600
the median household yearly income 2018......$61,770

median hourly incomes of the working class has declined.????? where ….in what world or math class is 61k a decline from 7.6k???
Of course its adjusted for inflation, working hours, members in a household and class.

median unadjusted household income is not what we are talking about.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:53 PM
 
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The average cost of Medicare per senior is "tens of millions?" I sincerely doubt that.
well if it is... then the liberals should really be sweating … because the cost wont be 6 trillion for singlepayer...it will be 6 quadrillion
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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The average cost of Medicare per senior is "tens of millions?" I sincerely doubt that.
You are the one who said you will not use what you've paid in. You have no idea what might strike you. Be glad you wont be at the mercy of the insurance industry who'll kick you off with a lifetime cap.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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I'm sure you're also aware that Sweden has a higher poverty rate than the US, no?
Impossible to take you seriously when you dont know the difference between average and median. This just proves it even further.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:56 PM
 
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Of course its adjusted for inflation, working hours, members in a household and class.

median unadjusted household income is not what we are talking about.
uhm

the median household yearly income 1970......$7600 …………..in todays (inflation )dollars ...$49,076.02
Inflation Calculator | Find US Dollar's Value from 1913-2018


yet:
the median household yearly income 2018......$61,770.... clearly not any type of """decline"""




even the min wage has kept up with inflation
https://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm
min wage at start (oct 1938).. $0.25........ in todays dollars (2018) $4.44

min wage 1945....................$0.40..........in todays dollars .......... $5.57

min wage 1984...................$3.35.........in todays dollars...........$8.08

min wage 1993...................$4.25.........in todays dollars...........$7.37

min wage 1999...................$5.15.........in todays dollars...........$7.74
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
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