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Old 09-03-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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Point 1 - Read what you just posted. You will hear a hissy fit.
Oh, the rubber-glue maneuver?

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Point 2 - Hollywood changes history to fit their PC anti-American agenda. Kennedy called it an American Enterprise when he announced the Moon project.
So? Is it that inconceivable to you and yours that an event can be depicted from different perspectives? Guess it is. America was the trailblazer in humanity's race to the stars, and now conservatives are pouty because they feel that perspective somehow diminishes America, that looking on Apollo as something mankind did takes something away from the US. It really speaks to an insecure nation if you have to replay your victory lap over and over.

And there's no "change of history" any more than it's changing history not showing the flag toppling as the LM took off.
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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I already posted Kennedy's full speech on the matter above.

Kennedy clearly called it an "American Enterprise". He did not call it an international effort, he did not call it an achievement for man kind. He called it an "American Enterprise".

So now the American hating Hollywood elite remove all of this and call it some sort of "human achievement" in order to justify pushing their PC agenda on the rest of us.
Where is Hollywood diminishing it? They did POSITIVE movies on it thru the years. You don't go by some actor saying something and it is a agenda.... Hollywood has no need to diminish what Kennedy began and was fulfilled.

Hollywood was ALWAYS LABLED LIBERAL and ugly in private .... from its beginnings.
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:41 PM
 
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Where is Hollywood diminishing it? ....
LAWL


Son, you lost the argument. Time to take the hat off the hook and move on.
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:51 PM
 
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LAWL


Son, you lost the argument. Time to take the hat off the hook and move on.
So cute when they think they get to declare the debate is over.
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Old 09-03-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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LAWL

Son, you lost the argument. Time to take the hat off the hook and move on.
I debated no one. My Hollywood comment was a statement. Hollywood was always labeled very liberal and did positive movies on going to the moon and legacy of our Astronauts. Did not matter one was a staunch GOP politician later in life.....
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:15 PM
 
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I get that the sons defend the movie as they may get money from the movie due to memorabilia or other items may be sold which benefit the Armstrong family.

Aside from that it is a total ridiculous idea to make it sound like the first walk on the moon was as Ryan Gosling describes it.

How liberal nutcases trying to defend the indefensible is laughable and insane but what to expect from a Hollywood liberal with no brain that believes that we all have to follow and believe what these libs wants us to believe and follow.

Let’s move these nutcases to Canada and hope they enjoy it there. Please give your passport to someone else so proud Americans can be added and these dumbos never have to see an American flag!
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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If you watch the movie "the Right Stuff", my favorite line was when one of the U.S. bureaucrats states "our Germans are better than their Germans. Too funny, but also true. However, it was an American achievement because the U.S. taxpayers funded it, and U.S. contractors built everything, not to mention who flew the damn things.
We barely beat Tajikistan to the moon. Anybody could do it.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:47 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Oh, the rubber-glue maneuver?

So? Is it that inconceivable to you and yours that an event can be depicted from different perspectives? Guess it is. America was the trailblazer in humanity's race to the stars, and now conservatives are pouty because they feel that perspective somehow diminishes America, that looking on Apollo as something mankind did takes something away from the US. It really speaks to an insecure nation if you have to replay your victory lap over and over.

And there's no "change of history" any more than it's changing history not showing the flag toppling as the LM took off.
Were our Apollo missions a concentrated effort by all nations to go to the moon? Did everyone chip in to p[ay for it?

When we went looking for the right stuff to fly those missions, to man up those rockets, how many were from Iceland, Scandinavia, Italy, Greece, or any other country?

You can attempt to revise history by making it sound as if it was a collective effort by all man kind, but the reality is that it was an American effort.

It isn't diminishing America by leaving the flag out, but lying about it doesn't make mankind bigger either.

It wasn't a world effort or achievement, it was an American achievement.

Is perspective another way to say lie, but make it sound nicer?

Fact: The lunar missions were 100% American paid for, manned and executed by Americans.

Fact: The it wasn't the flag of the UN planted on the moon, is was the American flag.

Why not and call it about perspective, why not make the movie about Swedes going to the moon first? LMAO

Or maybe make it about Palestinians traveling to the moon in the name of all humanity for peace? Hey it's all about perspective right?
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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When we went looking for the right stuff to fly those missions, to man up those rockets, how many were from Iceland, Scandinavia, Italy, Greece, or any other country?
You're reading it wrong. There is really no America. There's just the World. It doesn't matter if they don't live in the US. This is actually the same mentality that leads to the Open Border crowd.
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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Hahah, here's for the Trump supporters, feel better?

Have them sprinkled everywhere in every scene?

Trump supporters brag that they haven't seen movies since Charleton Heston. They probably don't even know who Ryan Gosling is, since he's under 40.

https://twitter.com/LeCinephiles/sta...97193901699072
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