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Old 10-22-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Joshua View Post
Why would a doctor remove a penis and testicles? That doesn't even make sense.
If they're not fully-formed and wouldn't be viable, sometimes physicians will remove them and essentially make the decision for the child that they will live as a girl.
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Old 10-22-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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A very sad story although , not a very common one. A question though, has the fact that the federal government doesn't legally acknowledge "hermaphrodite" as a gender effected her in any way ?
It's not common, but the occurrence makes false the statement that nature is absolutely definitive.

The question is: What is the problem this is intended to solve, and is it the best way to solve it?

I suspect that as ham-fisted an action as this would never survive the courts and would thus never actually solve nothing.

People are disturbed by the sudden gaggle of emerging sexual-isms in just the last few years, and for sure, some of them are plainly absurd with zero basis in anything concrete or rational.

Some are disputed even within the LGBTQ-whatever "community."

For instance, there are transgenders who absolutely deny "gender fluidity." They feel certainly they are not the gender their genitalia indicate, and they absolutely deny any ability to switch at will.

There are gays who oppose the idea that they are "transphobia" if they would object to their partner having a sex change (which would then make them heterosexual), and they also deny any ability to switch at will.

There is currently a free-for-all going on within some ivory towers that really has yet to become such a threat that life as we know it requires ham-fisted responses before it settles down to something more reasonable.

Even Millennials have grown tired of Trigglypuff.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:19 PM
 
Location: My House
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You don't base policy on outlier examples. You base it on the majority of reality.
I was actually suggesting we ID people by chromosomal gender if classifying for government purposes. No more “male.” No more “female.”

Just XX, XY, XXX, XXY, etc.

Like we do with blood types.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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So how will this trickle down to competitive sports?

I was saving up my nickels & dimes in hopes one day I could watch a tranny who calls himself a female put a wallop on a real woman in a live MMA match. Equal rights and equal lefts!!
No effect at all.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:55 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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What happens to people with penises who have ovaries? What about the ones with vaginas who have testicles?

External genitalia may not match chromosomal gender.
answer in bold.

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"Sex means a person’s status as male or female based on immutable biological traits identifiable by or before birth,” the department proposed in the memo, which was drafted and has been circulating since last spring. “The sex listed on a person’s birth certificate, as originally issued, shall constitute definitive proof of a person’s sex unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence."
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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I was actually suggesting we ID people by chromosomal gender if classifying for government purposes. No more “male.” No more “female.”

Just XX, XY, XXX, XXY, etc.

Like we do with blood types.
You know what's weird? I've been trying to educate myself on gender/transgender issues for years, and I have never run across that idea! It sounds like a good idea to me. It might be problematic in ways that I haven't considered, of course, but it's a start, if nothing else.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I was actually suggesting we ID people by chromosomal gender if classifying for government purposes. No more “male.” No more “female.”

Just XX, XY, XXX, XXY, etc.

Like we do with blood types.
Works for me!
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I have little doubt that if Republicans could actually get everything they want accomplished, it would actually be illegal to be gay.

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Excuse me, but that is an asinine thing for you to say. You are confusing Constitutional conservatives, with religious conservatives, they are not one in the same.


If you are a man or a woman, it's no one's business who you prefer to have intimate sexual relations with. It was not conservatives who were opposed to the gay life style choices, it was the bible thumpers.
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I was actually suggesting we ID people by chromosomal gender if classifying for government purposes. No more “male.” No more “female.”

Just XX, XY, XXX, XXY, etc.

Like we do with blood types.

To appease the new left, why not simply do away with race too, while we are at it? This way it won't matter, whatever skin color, race, or ethnicity a person wants to be. Just put human on the ID card and be done with it
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Apparently, you didn't read what I was responding to. The OP did display bigotry in his statement. He disparaged every gay, lesbian, or transgender person in his statement and expressed disapproval of the increasing acceptance we have achieved in today's society.
I am the OP, and the disparagement is very much merited. It started off as "LG", for Lesbian (female) or Gay (male). Then it became "LGB", for Bisexual, fine. But turns out some people are pyschologically male/female but biologically different so they cross dress or even go through surgery, so there you had "LGBT", I think most people can accept that.

But that wasn't enough, because in the 21st century everyone is a special "unique" snowflake and you have to "identify" them with their own ultra-precise sexual label. People weren't happy with those buckets and insisted on adding Q/QUE-ER, I/Intersex, AAA/Asexual/Aromamantic(lol)/Ally, PP/Pansexual/Polygamous, K/Kinky(lolol) so lets see we are at "LGBTQIAAAPPK" and counting.

It's ridiculous, and stupid. Yes, your LGBT+kitchensink identity is stupid. It's very stupid to go around parading your sexual behaviors like anyone else should care. Keep it to yourself like a civilized person

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