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Old 01-06-2019, 10:35 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Originally Posted by J746NEW View Post
Poll: Record number of Americans want to leave country
There's a big difference between people saying they want to leave the country and people actually leaving the country. Very few Americans give up their U.S. citizenship.

Instead, millions of people try to immigrate to the U.S. every year.

 
Old 01-06-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
There's a big difference between people saying they want to leave the country and people actually leaving the country. Very few people give up their U.S. citizenship.

Instead, millions of people try to immigrate to the U.S. every year.
When your immigrating from the third world or war damaged country, any country looks better.
Millions immigrant to many European Countries as well.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Record number of Americans want to leave the U.S.: https://news.gallup.com/poll/245789/...ans-leave.aspx

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STORY HIGHLIGHTS
* 40% of women younger than 30 would like to leave the U.S.
* 22% who disapprove of Trump would like to move vs. 7% who approve
* Canada is top desired destination for would-be migrant Americans
Of course, as the article notes, there is a big difference between wanting to leave and intending to leave.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 11:28 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Canada is still tied to the United Kingdom as I said earlier in the thread, so no, we are not responsible for their success. Get over it
If Canada were located in Asia or Africa it would not be nearly as successful.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Canada
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If Canada were located in Asia or Africa it would not be nearly as successful.
If the U.S. were located in Asia or Africa it would not be nearly as successful as well.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Originally Posted by craigiri View Post
Actually, it's quite a diverse place and they have vast numbers of immigrants.

"More than one in five Canadians were born abroad, and 22.3% of the population belonged to visible minorities, of whom 3 in 10 were born in Canada."
And this is important how?
 
Old 01-06-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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A most interesting article, which the image below does a good job of summarizing.
The image is misleading and wholly subjective, not to mention it doesn't account for cultural norms.

Education is a cultural value. Some cultures place high value on education, some don't.

The US has several sub-cultures that do not value education.

Not everyone should have a college education. All surgeons are doctors, but not all doctors are surgeons, nor could they ever be surgeons, because they simply don't have the aptitude for it. For the same reason, not everyone is a plumber, or a rock and roll guitar player.

The US did quite well for centuries with few people who were college educated, so it's not really a relevant metric.

Home-ownership in Romania is 98%.

What do you say about that?

Is Romania better than Canada? Hardly. The Standard of Living is less. You probably wouldn't last 5 days before crying to go somewhere else.

Home-ownership is cultural value, and some cultures value it more than others.

If you do doubt, then you need only look at bankruptcy laws.

Congress has set exemptions for bankruptcy, but it also allows the States to set their own exemptions.

In some States, you can choose either the federal exemptions, or the State exemptions, whichever is to your best financial advantage, but in some States you have only the federal exemptions and some States force you to take only the State exemptions.

The federal exemption for real property, you know, your home is about $27,000. Contrast that with the homestead exemptions offered by the States of Texas and Florida. They're very generous and significantly higher than the federal exemption, because the cultures of Texas and Florida place high value on the ownership of homes and real property in general.

Contrast that further still with the exemptions for the State of Ohio and Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. They do not offer generous homestead exemptions, rather their generous exemptions focus on other things which the cultures of Ohio and Pennsylvania value more than land ownership.

So, home-ownership is not a valid metric.

Life-expectancy is culturally-based, too, and not a valid metric.

Show me in Canada where there are cities like Chicago and Baltimore where gang murders are frequent and innocent people are murdered in drive-by shootings.

Canada doesn't have an opioid crisis, either.

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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
Did you actually look at the employment rate?
Did you?

The metric is skewed for propaganda and disinformation purposes.

The employment rate in the US is not 68% no matter how you measure it.

There are three ways to examine employment/unemployment.

One way is the Labor Force Participation Rate, which is 62.8% for the US.

Another way is the Employment-to-Population Ratio, which is 60.4% for the US.

Finally, you can compare the number of people employed to those seeking jobs, and that is 3.7% in the US.

No matter how you look at it, your propaganda graph is wrong.

Should people who do not wish to work be forced to work?

Why should they be forced to work against their will, so you can have a graph that says more people are working?

That's stupid.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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If people really wanted to leave the US they would. Otherwise it's just yet another way to complain. And whether where they desire to go actually wants them to come is another matter entirely. Not so easy to emigrate to another country.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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And this is important how?
It justifies Leftist racism that Canada allows millions of Chinese to buy their way in.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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Nothing new...

Canada also has lower income inequality, universal healthcare, mandatory paid days off for all workers, 1 year maternity leave, much cheaper higher education and daycare, higher federal minimum wage, lower crime rate, and higher standard of living especially for the lower and middle class.

America is great for the rich... that’s why moving back to Europe after many many years living in this country.
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