Speaking as a Trump voter, he's already compromised A LOT (highway, fence)

[rkcarguy]

Originally Posted by Nov3

How can you speculate so falsely? Mexico was to pay for the wall...that was his promise...

I'd welcome an unbiased and fair accessment...care to parlay such ?
What is humanitarian about starvation and persecution? Never mind...the answer is ...nothing.

Mexico will be paying for the wall, in the form of the Tariffs that were placed upon their imports into the US. The humanitarian side of things is never easy. Can all the illegals come crash at your place?

[cuebald]

Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70

Obviously I understand that given the makeup of Congress, compromise is necessary to stop the impasse but I'll honestly say that as a Trump supporter and the son of LEGAL immigrants, Trump has already compromised significantly more than the Democrats.

As a voter here is what I actually believe:

If someone is illegal, they don't deserve anything. I think DACA should be rescinded and they should have NO path to citizenship and that they should just be happy we're not able to deport them all. Illegal aliens in my opinion are NOT entitled to in-state college tuition or shouldn't even have the right to education or health care at all in the United States. I also believe in an Israeli-style concrete barrier going at least 20 feet underground to prevent tunnels and with sensors and drones flying across the border at all times. I also believe birthright citizenship should be modified where at least one parent has to be in the U.S. legally.

I would also be okay with the use of snipers and drone strikes against Mexican drug cartels and traffickers along the border.

So yes what Trump has done is compromise MUCH more than the Democrats have. Given that I now recognize the need for compromise given the makeup of Congress, I can LIVE WITH (not necessarily like) DACA recipients being given permanent residency but not citizenship, and their illegal parents should have zero respite. No illegal alien who came over the age of 18 should get any kind of amnesty. This in exchange for the wall. Either all this or the complete and permanent defunding of Planned Parenthood and the permanent repeal of Obamacare in exchange for no wall and continued DACA.

The Democrats haven't compromise a single bit. This is why I believe Trump must keep the government closed until the Democrats back down. If Trump re-opens the government now we get nothing and the Democrats get everything they want- no wall, plus amnesty for DACA and other illegals.

He was severely compromised before he lied by taking the Oath of Office.

Great things never change.

If someone here is illegal and working, it is because a citizen broke the law. Deal with them and you'll solve the problem.

[jeffrow1]

Originally Posted by RcHydro

When he was born, the doctor spanked him on the azz and said, compromised!

Nah, when he was born the doctor took one look at him and slapped his mother.

Sorry couldn't resist.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by bertwrench

Those don’t include a wall, which I do believe will help. Around the world they have been proven to help. Still being built today. Frankly, I don’t see why there is such a stigma around them. Just because we have a wall between us and our neighbors does not men we do not like them. A wall actually helps BOTH countries.

Do you remember the Berlin wall?

[blktoptrvl]

• Democrats do not believe a wall is needed.
• Democrats do not believe a wall is practical.
• Democrats do not believe a wall is wise.
• Democrats do not believe a wall is economical.

Additional funding for border security IS THE COMPROMISE being offered by the Democrats. There is no amount of a wall that is acceptable - nor an actual compromise.

So, if trump wants border security the Democrats have already offered billions in this area. If he demands that a wall be built for his political cover, then he is SOL.

[Bobdreamz]

Originally Posted by ColdAilment

Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. Why aren't they? He never said he'd shutdown the government and make the American taxpayers pay for it during his campaign, gee I wonder why?

Because he is a LIAR !


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[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70

How is that a Stasi idea? Criminals cut deals all the time!!! So you claim the DACA kids shouldn't be punished for the crimes of their parents. Should these parents be punished for their own crimes????

Google Stasi.

[Vector1]

Originally Posted by cruitr

What compromise do you want the Democrats to make?

I cannot speak for the OP, but if the Democrats were willing to appropriate $45 billion not too long ago for a border wall/barrier, and $27 billion just this past February for the same, saying not one penny now is clearly obstructionist.
One only needs to watch videos of Democrats presently in Congress making speeches about the need for a border wall/barrier/fence etc., or the problem with illegal aliens.
Yet they are all now lining up lockstep with Pelosi & Schumer to oppose it because they are trying to further damage Trump politically.

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[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by Oldglory

And it's already been addressed so why do you keep repeating that same old line? Just like hearing yourself talk?


I ask again, were you just as concerned when congress passed the actual wall bill back in 2006 and it was to be soley funded by the taxpayer? Crickets........

You've been given links to the 2006 fencing act, repeatedly. There are areas that were supposed to get the double fencing that still don't have them because the land owners are still fighting it in court.

There have been Republicans from border states voting with the Democrats because their constituents do not want a wall.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

Because we are a nation of laws.

Hah! That means nothing to Trump. In NJ verbal contracts are legally binding. Didn't stop him from refusing to pay small contractors in Atlantic City.