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Old 01-21-2019, 03:29 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I cannot speak for the OP, but if the Democrats were willing to appropriate $45 billion not too long ago for a border wall/barrier, and $27 billion just this past February for the same, saying not one penny now is clearly obstructionist.
One only needs to watch videos of Democrats presently in Congress making speeches about the need for a border wall/barrier/fence etc., or the problem with illegal aliens.
Yet they are all now lining up lockstep with Pelosi & Schumer to oppose it because they are trying to further damage Trump politically.

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Trump's doing a good job by himself. He doesn't need help.
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes. Show me proof they actually want better boarder security and a REDUCED number of illegals in the country. I have not heard anything from them recently but we should let them all in and all 2/3 of them to be supported by the American taxpayers. Ten to fifteen years ago their tune was different but today’s democrats are different. They care more about split and divide and improving their power. They care nothing of the average joe and Jane American.
Stop blaming the Democrats for the fact that Trump & his Republican majority in both Houses of Congress have failed to deliver on a campaign promise to his base for the last two years.
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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Mexico will be paying for the wall, in the form of the Tariffs that were placed upon their imports into the US. The humanitarian side of things is never easy. Can all the illegals come crash at your place?
You realize that tariffs are passed along to purchaser and eventually the consumer. In the end, you will pay for the wall.
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No sane Democrats would ever comprise, nor should they.

A well designed wall would significantly curtail the influx of the illegals who have the potential to overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats.

Democrats would be foolish to accept any deal.

As for America and Americans, they can go to hell as far as the Democrats are concerned.
Again stop blaming the Democrats for the fact that Trump & his Republican majority in Congress have failed to deliver on a campaign promise to his base for the last two years.

He has failed you.

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Old 01-21-2019, 03:59 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by Vector1 View Post
I cannot speak for the OP, but if the Democrats were willing to appropriate $45 billion not too long ago for a border wall/barrier, and $27 billion just this past February for the same, saying not one penny now is clearly obstructionist.
One only needs to watch videos of Democrats presently in Congress making speeches about the need for a border wall/barrier/fence etc., or the problem with illegal aliens.
Yet they are all now lining up lockstep with Pelosi & Schumer to oppose it because they are trying to further damage Trump politically.

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Why didn't the 'great negotiator' take any of those offers before he decided to shut down the government over far less?


One might think POTUS hasn't a CLUE as to what he wants until someone tells him.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Mexico will be paying for the wall, in the form of the Tariffs that were placed upon their imports into the US.
Americans will pay those tariffs.

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The humanitarian side of things is never easy. Can all the illegals come crash at your place?
The illegals should shack up at their employers' places.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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Again stop blaming the Democrats for the fact that Trump & his Republican majority in Congress have failed to deliver on a campaign promise to his base for the last two years.

He has failed you.

I've gotten used to that over the years, politicians failing people.

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan .... "
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:45 PM
 
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I've gotten used to that over the years, politicians failing people.

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan .... "

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Old 01-21-2019, 04:53 PM
 
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How is that a Stasi idea? Criminals cut deals all the time!!! So you claim the DACA kids shouldn't be punished for the crimes of their parents. Should these parents be punished for their own crimes????
I don't consider the parents of DACA children to be criminals anymore than someone who speeds on a highway. Ask those who lived in East Germany at the time. Being required to inform on your neighbors and family was considered the most gut wrenching part of living in East Germany before the fall of the Soviet Union.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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Again stop blaming the Democrats for the fact that Trump & his Republican majority in Congress have failed to deliver on a campaign promise to his base for the last two years.

He has failed you.

I was not blaming anybody.

I was merely pointing out the facts: 1) Democrats want the votes from the illegals, and 2) they don’t care about Americans.
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