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Originally Posted by Open-D
Does the fact that the pre-born child, not part of the mother but merely INSIDE her attached to the placentia, is MURDERED in an abortion. And before you say it is her body, wake up. It is not envervated by her nervouse system, it has its own heart, organs, and functioning brain and is only indirectly connected to the mother.
It is not more a part of the mother than a visitor is part of your house.
Have you no idea how you dehumanize yourself by the mere act of supporting murder, i.e. Infanticide.
But, OTOH, it is overwhelmingly liberals killing-off their progeny so, really, what's the big deal.
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Most abortions take place when the fetus is no larger than a peanut. It's not sentient and unable to feel pain. Sort of like the tumors that are taken out of people.
As for liberals killing off their own progeny, here's a few facts for you to digest: It's a fact that families that can plan the number of children they have tend to have more money and are able to better care for the children they do have. Their children are healthier, better educated, and do better in life.
Another fact that you seem to ignore is that:
"Of the 12 states ranked highest in infant mortality rates, all with rates of 7.0 or higher, 11 are described by the abortion rights organization NARAL as imposing "severely restricted access" on abortions."
"Alabama is tied for fourth-worst place in infant mortality, with a rate of 7.4 deaths per 1,000 live births. Georgia, with a rate of 7.2, is tied for seventh-worst."
Let's not even get started with how bad Alabama's maternal mortality rate is.Oh, I forgot. That Alabama governor who's so concerned for life? She refused to commute the death sentence of a convict just a couple hours after she signed the abortion bill and the convict was put to death. Yeah, I see that pro-life coming through there.
And as to dehumanizing...what kind of animal are you to wish foster care, possible sexual and physical abuse, possible death, and forcing children to be born to parents who don't want them and don't love them? You seriously think there's loving homes for all these kids? If so, you need a huge reality check. Why don't you take a walk around any large city. Yes, you will be seeing kids who aged out of the foster care system and are now on the street, dealing drugs and being prostitutes to stay alive. That's the end result of forced birthing.
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Originally Posted by BobNJ1960
She also can obligate him to either take protection, or not have sex with him if he fails to comply.
To get pregnant w/o wanting to, with so many options to avoid it available, is the ultimate in stupidity.
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He also has the option of beating her when she asks him to use protection or refuses to have sex with him.
On top of all that, only an idiot believes that using birth control will prevent pregnancy 100% of the time. ALL birth control has a failure rate and many couples using two kinds of birth control find themselves facing a pregnancy.
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Originally Posted by lottamoxie
They are not pro-life because they don't care about a young girl (legally a child) getting pregnant through rape or incest. And they don't care about a woman's life. Seriously, they do not care.
If there's a fertilized egg, even as a result of a felony crime, all that matters is the protection of the fertilized egg. To heck with the traumatized girl or anything else.
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Until the fertilized egg turns into a woman. Then it's of no use to any forced birthers except as an incubator for the next generation.
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Originally Posted by BentBow
Isn't MURDER illegal in every state?
The RIGHT TO LIFE, Liberty & the pursuit of Happiness.
It is all right there from the beginning in the USA.
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So then how to you want to proceed if the life of the mother is in danger while she gives birth? Which one has more right to life, the mother or the baby being born? Because sometimes you have to decide.
There are parents in other countries who will kill their daughters if they shame them. That's just their culture and their belief system. Here in the US we have parents who will kill their daughters to let their grandchild live. That's just our culture and our belief system. One is no better than the other and if you endorse our system, then you have to endorse their system as well. It comes down to the same thing in the end, the willingness to kill the daughters and women who interfere with a certain set of beliefs.
That's what the "Right to Life" in the Constitution comes down to if you start infringing on the personal rights of the people already here.
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Originally Posted by Aussiehoff
What about the large proportion of women who are pro-life? They don't care about women? Do you realise that the proportion of males and females that are pro-life are about the same?
Why do we have to pretend this is men trying to control women? Wouldn't plain old honesty make for a better starting point to the conversation.
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No, because it's all based on what women do. Women are the ones who have to keep their legs closed. Women are the ones who have to make their partners use birth control. Women are the ones who end up raising the children after the men have split. Women are the ones who have to take responsibility for the pregnancy and make the decisions about it.
That's what you hear every time there's a thread like this and every time you read the comments on a news story about abortion. It's always the fault of the women. Freaking always.
Do you know what would solve the abortion problem once and for all? Men not pulling their zippers down. For all the men here and everywhere else, tell me, how often have you heard THAT given as a solution to the abortion problem?
Plain old honesty says this is not only about controlling women, but punishing them for having sex outside marriage and not wanting to follow the script of staying home barefoot, pregnant, and subservient to men while raising a pack of kids.
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Originally Posted by sickofnyc
They are anti-choice not pro-life.
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Call them what they are: forced birthers.
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Originally Posted by FKD19124
well the left have enjoyed over 40 years of killing of the Gen X and others after that because of an inconvenience. Time to reverse the trend. Also if you are so scared of over population, go look at third world countries and the birth rates over there.
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OK, let's play pretend. It's forty years in the future. There are 50 million more people here than there were before abortion was legal. Well, let's halve that number, because at least half of them don't exist because their mothers left or lived in states where abortion is still legal.
So that means red states like Georgia, Missouri, Alabama, etc, now split 25 million more people among them. 25 million more going into foster care in states that don't have expanded Medicaid, have cut back on welfare and food stamps, have a terrible record in maternal mortality, bad schools, and more poor people people with less education and medical care.
Can we use the phrase "shooting yourself in the foot"?
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
Question to you idiots who cannot control your own sex life (I thought YOU were responsible for YOUR own body?) Why not take the morning after pill and then shut up?
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Because
a lot of these states also want to outlaw the morning after pill! Hello? Where have you been?
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Originally Posted by Nanny Goat
I have a friend who will house those wanting abortions in her home in the North. I'm sure other women will join in, and transport them to and fro. Big caravans riding up and down from South to North. There will many underground systems that will not let these women down. Women won't stand for this crap I can tell you that much.
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They won't. I won't. And I defy anyone who thinks they can make me back down.
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