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The bulk of coal and gas plants are only 30 to 40% efficient, combined cycle gas plants are 45 to 60 but it's going to be quite a long time before they make up the bulk of plants. Get it? There is also losses during trnamission /distribution.
The car itself may be more efficient compared to ICE vehicle but there is substantial inefficiencies in producing and distributing that power. They may or may not be more efficient when it's all accounted for but it's not going to be much.
It costs me $6 to fill up a 75 KW battery pack to go over 300 miles while my ICE cars cost about $80 to fill up and go slightly farther ($6 to fill up is much better than $80 to fill up). I think you're incorrect on the losses of electricity versus ICE.
And if the whole world followed Norway's lead, their economy would crumble when they could no longer export huge quantities of oil. Do they believe enough in saving the earth that they'd be willing to stop pumping oil out of the ground?
First off total power consumed would be less overall but you are correct that the grid will have to expanded.
The country still needs plastics and kerosene and other petrochemicals--and asphalt. So the chemical refineries stay open and consume power. So do their pipelines.
Otherwise what do they plan to pave the roads with? Or seal their roofs with?
The stuff in the ground is already pre-packed with calories. Doesn't need to be charged, or generated. Just a little refining--which also yields other useful products.
It costs me $6 to fill up a 75 KW battery pack to go over 300 miles while my ICE cars cost about $80 to fill up and go slightly farther ($6 to fill up is much better than $80 to fill up). I think you're incorrect on the losses of electricity versus ICE.
Electric cars are too expensive. The Volt cost 38k and gets between ~225 miles per charge. THAT is one of the inexpensive ones. There isn't a reasonable priced electric car that has a 300 mile range.
"The Tesla Model S still leads all comers in this regard, with a maximum range of 335 miles, depending on the version. On the downside, it’s priced beyond the reach of most motorists at $79,000-$114,000." https://www.myev.com/research/compar...-for-the-money
Yea that's affordable.
btw to go 300 miles at 30MPG is 10 gal. 10 gal x 2.50 =$25 You're either paying way too much or your GAS car has a 454 hemi. ICE car? lol Silly
It costs me $6 to fill up a 75 KW battery pack to go over 300 miles while my ICE cars cost about $80 to fill up and go slightly farther ($6 to fill up is much better than $80 to fill up). I think you're incorrect on the losses of electricity versus ICE.
Cost has no bearing on efficiency, instead efficiency has bearing on cost. Efficiency is one variable used to determine cost but the cost per BTU varies widely before we adjust using efficiency. e.g. 1 million BTU's of available energy in coal or natural used to generate the power for your car has much lower cost than 1 million BTU's from gasoline. If you want to get into how efficiency can affect cost using coal or natural gas to your heat you home is about 1/3 of electric. The primary source of that electric is coal and natural gas. The big reason it's so much less is natural gas and coal heating appliances have very high efficiencies relative to coal and natural gas plants producing that power.
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Electric cars are too expensive. The Volt cost 38k and gets between ~225 miles per charge. THAT is one of the inexpensive ones. There isn't a reasonable priced electric car that has a 300 mile range.
"The Tesla Model S still leads all comers in this regard, with a maximum range of 335 miles, depending on the version. On the downside, it’s priced beyond the reach of most motorists at $79,000-$114,000." https://www.myev.com/research/compar...-for-the-money
Yea that's affordable.
btw to go 300 miles at 30MPG is 10 gal. 10 gal x 2.50 =$25 You're either paying way too much or your GAS car has a 454 hemi. ICE car? lol Silly
You live in Texas so your gas is much cheaper than ours in Washington state and our electricity is quite cheap here so your calculations in Texas are going to be different but it's still going to be much cheaper for energy in a Tesla than any ICE car. A dual motor Model 3 costs about $50K (not expensive to some people like me but it is for others so just depends on your situation) has a range of 322 miles and is far more energy efficient than a Pius or a Volt and is way way faster and handles much better and is just a much better overall car. I agree if your primary motive is low total cost, some ICE cars are still going to be cheaper in the long run.
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