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Old 10-03-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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When you say politicians should dictate _____ for the people. Thats how it is done.
Not at gunpoint, but via laws and regulations.

 
Old 10-03-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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What ideas are being forced upon the people at gunpoint? Electric cars?
As it stands now, non EV car buyers are forced to pay for EV technology thanks to govt mandates requiring manufacturer compliance (loads gun and points it at GM,Ford,VW, Toyota, et al. and John Q Public car buyer at large)
Those who actually purchase an EV enjoy a taxpayer subsidy thanks to anyone who pays taxes (points gun at taxpayer head).
 
Old 10-03-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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Not at gunpoint, but via laws and regulations.
Which are enforced at gunpoint.
 
Old 10-03-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Do you live in Afghanistan? In the West laws are enforced in courts, even in China actually. If you violate the law, you will pay a fine or go to jail in severe cases. That's it.
There is no point in putting it as if any laws a part of the population doesn't like are dictatorial or something like that.
 
Old 10-03-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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https://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-a7065616.html

Norway is increasingly seen as the envy of the world. It is FIRST place in the world happiness index. It is #5 in median income (U.S. is behind at #8). It has a debt-to-GDP ratio of -90.5 percent. In other words it has a national surplus, not a national debt.

Norway has obviously made a lot of good decisions. Now they are making another good decision by banning the sale of fossil-fuel-powered vehicles by 2025. Not the 2030 plan of Gov. Jay Inslee, which was seen as way too ambitious and radical but 2025.

Can someone please explain to me why we are not following Norway's lead????
You need to buy a vowel.........the USA is 30 TIMES bigger than this postage stamp......
 
Old 10-03-2019, 05:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Neuling View Post
Do you live in Afghanistan? In the West laws are enforced in courts, even in China actually. If you violate the law, you will pay a fine or go to jail in severe cases. That's it.
There is no point in putting it as if any laws a part of the population doesn't like are dictatorial or something like that.
What happens when an individual refuses arrest, jail,court attendence?

Every law has a gun behind it.
 
Old 10-03-2019, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Yet life expectancies continue to rise.
Maybe it’s because of cleaner oceans, drinking water and improved air quality, it couldn’t be medical advances.

Last edited by Goodnight; 10-03-2019 at 08:23 PM..
 
Old 10-03-2019, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
As it stands now, non EV car buyers are forced to pay for EV technology thanks to govt mandates requiring manufacturer compliance (loads gun and points it at GM,Ford,VW, Toyota, et al. and John Q Public car buyer at large)
Those who actually purchase an EV enjoy a taxpayer subsidy thanks to anyone who pays taxes (points gun at taxpayer head).
Meanwhile global subsidies for oil companies are in the trillions.
 
Old 10-03-2019, 08:21 PM
 
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Meanwhile global subsidies for oil companies are in the trillions.
Im against subsidies if you couldnt tell from the post you quoted me from.

Are you as well or just the ones that dont favor you?
 
Old 10-03-2019, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Im against subsidies if you couldnt tell from the post you quoted me from.

Are you as well or just the ones that dont favor you?
I am against them...
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