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Old 09-03-2019, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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So, no SF86 (between either of you, I never would have thunk it).....what criminal statue or federal criminal statue did Petraeus violate, several years after he was no longer associated with the CIA...


Many of the DoD regulations are based off law......this is the reason they can be prosecuted.



Or are both of you really saying that FBI/CIA policy cannot be violated by someone who is not part of the FBI/CIA? Then why not invade the FBI/CIA....if you cannot be prosecuted, by their policy.....
Ok since you have an SF86 tell us dummies specifically what criminal offense Comey committed, it shouldn't be that hard, just cite the criminal statute
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Did you? I know the policies they talk about that he violated, and what I sign on a yearly basis very clearly states that if I violate these policies, I will be refereed to law enforcement for criminal actions....


When was your last SF86?
It says you will be referred to law enforcement for criminal action, or it says you could be?

I don't sign anything every year. I have yearly training requirements, but I don't sign any document yearly.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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If you are investigated for a crime and it's found that you didn't commit the crime and the report simply states: "no criminal charges will be brought against the defendant", does that mean that you really did commit a crime, because it didn't state that you didn't? That's some bizarre logic.
Do you feel the same way about President Trump and the Russian collusion investigation that found nothing?
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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Because he didn't commit a crime,why are you guys struggling with that?
He's still under investigation.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:08 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...Then why not invade the FBI/CIA....if you cannot be prosecuted, by their policy.....
We all know that if you "invade" a government building you'll be violating laws, not agency policy. C'mon, Chuck, you're simply being ridiculous now.

Yes, I'm saying that if I'm not an employee of the FBI or CIA I cannot be punished based off of their agency policy. Absolutely. Now, if their policy overlaps with some applicable law, I could be punished based off of that law, certainly.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Boston
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If you are investigated for a crime and it's found that you didn't commit the crime and the report simply states: "no criminal charges will be brought against the defendant", does that mean that you really did commit a crime, because it didn't state that you didn't? That's some bizarre logic.
I agree, it's what the Democrats have been doing to Trump since election day.
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Old 09-04-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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He's still under investigation.
.. in your dreams maybe.
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Old 09-04-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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.. in your dreams maybe.


Well, the FISA investigation could splash back on him, I'm pretty sure. Not certain that counts as him being under investigation, however.
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Old 09-04-2019, 09:59 AM
 
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If you are investigated for a crime and it's found that you didn't commit the crime and the report simply states: "no criminal charges will be brought against the defendant", does that mean that you really did commit a crime, because it didn't state that you didn't? That's some bizarre logic.
The IG does not draw conclusions about whether or not a person, Comey in this investigation, violated the Law. His role is strictly limited to Department policies and employment agreements. which he concluded Comey did violate.

Comey violated several federal laws regarding the handling and dissemination of classified material. Prosecutors can decline to prosecute for many reasons, even when they believe crimes have been committed. I'd like Barr to explain his decision, but that's not the normal procedure.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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.. in your dreams maybe.
You don't think the ongoing FISA warrant investigation involves Comey? He signed 3 of them.
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