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we live in the land of sensationalized freakout and Cancel Culture dominates.
the fact is 6 or 7 people have died very recently. vaping has been around for nearly a decade.
We are talking about how we can end this entire industry.
we aren't talking about what changed?
What are the commonalities between the vape used by those who died or have gotten sick.
we aren't talking about why now? why not 5 years ago?
it seems to me we are more interested in freaking out and canceling some group we decide are just evil.
all the while, the big tobacco companies are pushing cancer sticks into the hands of millions of people who are dying at a rate of hundreds of thousands every year...
If Nicotine is only addicting, then what exactly in tobacco causes the cancers? Have we figured out what exactly causes the cancers related to tobacco use? I'm not asking for saying you're wrong but clarification.
Yes we did that decades ago.
Cancer causing agents in tobacco are predominantly polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons [PAH] (benzene and derivatives), tobacco specific nitrosamines [TSNA], various aldehydes like Formaldehyde, Arsenic, Nickle, hexavalent Chromium, Cadmium, Lead. Obviously quantities of these and relative ratios vary because of the botanical nature of tobacco.
You're falling into the fallacy that the drug is the primary risk, in fact the delivery mechanism of the drug is the primary risk.
There is no combustion in vape. There's a heating coil, that's it, there is no oxidation that drives the operation. Now does that mean that the content of the tank is solely evaporated, no I cannot say that it's only evaporated, there may be slight thermal breakdown of the components of the liquid, however, as a substitute for tobacco it's an entirely different ball park, one is like sucking on a car exhaust, the other walking by the side of the road.
The manufacturers of vapes have been very good at suggesting that the 'deaths' and illnesses are all related to the 'illegal' vapes....but that's not necessarily FACT.......
There is no common factor YET but some theories. Just remember to not fall victim to the 'rumors' the manufacturers will put out there to justify selling their product.
Vaping has been around for what, 12-15 years? There have never been any significant numbers of illnesses, now in the matter of a few weeks there are hundreds of sick people and 6 deaths and most if not all are linked to vaping THC? Vaping consists of 3 components, nicotine, vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol - both of the latter have been used without harm in nebulizers for decades.
When I hear about attempts to ban or limit vaping I wonder if the patents that Phillip Morris has filed for vaping devices and marijuana vape pens & their new "heat not burn" cigarettes plays into this.
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On Tuesday, the FDA announced that limited sales of the heat-not-burn tobacco device IQOS would be allowed, though with strict marketing restrictions designed to prevent uptake by children and teens. The products authorized for sale will be sold by Philip Morris International (PMI) through an exclusive license with Altria Group. They include IQOS, Marlboro Heatsticks, Marlboro Smooth Menthol Heatsticks, and Marlboro Fresh Menthol Heatsticks. https://www.medpagetoday.com/primarycare/smoking/79555
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Altria, the parent company of tobacco giant Philip Morris whose $1.8 billion investment in a cannabis company was announced Friday, has over the past five years quietly patented dozens of devices that could be used to consume marijuana, a review of public documents at the US Patent and Trademark Office shows. https://www.leafly.com/news/industry...uana-vape-pens
Vaping has been around for what, 12-15 years? There have never been any significant numbers of illnesses, now in the matter of a few weeks there are hundreds of sick people and 6 deaths and most if not all are linked to vaping THC? Vaping consists of 3 components, nicotine, vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol - both of the latter have been used without harm in nebulizers for decades.
This agenda of vaping bad is nothing but garbage. Recently we've seen a large increase so the question is why now? What's different?
Not nicotine vaping either. So why one and not the other? Improperly distilled essential oils?
Vitamin E oil in black market THC cartridge manufacturers. A thickening agent for vaporizing used in THC vaping and not nicotine vaping. if you add undistilled essential oils as well as or any other type of oil to the mixture you get trouble. It needs to be distilled. Some are saying don't use vitamin E at all as it's a topical and not to be inhaled.
You never vape oil. No vape liquid sold by a reputable manufacturer contains any oil distilled or not. They contain PG (not an oil) VG (not an oil) Nicotine (not an oil) and flavoring that is not oil based.
I do vape with weed though. Much better and less addictive substance.
The weed ones are what's killing people if they have Vitamin E in it. There are so many counterfeit ones out there and even the ones from the store you don't know what's in them. The regs are way too loose.
I think it's the cheaper newer cartridge type vapes that are the problem as they suffer from contaminants sometimes.
The volcano (dry herb vape) came out for vaping weed in 2000 and I've used that for many years with zero problems.
That's completely different. The problem is there is no FDA regulations on the THC oil so you never know what's in it or not. Then you have the counterfeit and homemade ones.
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Yeah, real viable. Why not just try nicotine gum?
