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Old 10-20-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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I don't think you can predict that unless you know more about the cafeteria and where it is. My guess is that people in the Google or Apple employee cafeteria would distribute themselves differently than at a Golden Corral in Alabama.
The same can be said for an employee cafeteria at a factory. And let's extend it past employment. Try going to a local bar during football season and see how people distribute themselves. Team allegiance.


Something about me. I recently went to a nice bar in Huntsville, AL (I recently moved there over the summer). I wanted to watched baseball. Everyone else wanted to watch football, specifically University of Alabama. I can't pick a side because I feel no affinity or attachment to college football. I'm a baseball man. I was basically one of 2 people (I didn't discover the other person watching baseball until I moved seats) in the bar watching the baseball game. This was out of at least 70 or more people in the bar.

I had no practical way of distributing myself. I stood out in every way. I was there for a different sport (and that would have been the case for me at every bar in Alabama this time of year). I have no allegiance to college football. I basically learned how to enjoy my baseball game alone.

It proves that in some places, some situtations, race isn't the clincher. In my case, it could have been (I have no way of knowing, albeit I was one of maybe 2 or 3 Black people at that bar). However, the thing that had a big isolation factor was preferring baseball.
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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Is learned behavior the same as natural impulses? You chose your company based on prior experiences. An animal always wants to be with its own /pride/herd/flock etc, but if that group continually attacks a member, that member will fall back from the group and may even eventually isolate itself.
An adult animal is probably more apt to be off scouting for a mate than kicking it with the family.
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:52 PM
 
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See post #256
People work together very well when they respect each other, understand what they are there for, and are willing to help each other. At one company I worked for, that respect for each other was there, for the most part. Part of the reason me and several other co-workers got along (and broke bread together) is because we respected one another. We respected the work we did. And sometimes we helped each other with certain projects. Some people got along better than others, but generally, we could easily get work done. The only real enemy we had was clock (deadlines).
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:01 PM
 
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An adult animal is probably more apt to be off scouting for a mate than kicking it with the family.
And thus, there is something important to understand. Animals rely on instinct. Everyhing about animals is "instinct". Sex in the animal world is essentially instinctive.

Human beings, on the other hand, are likely to think things through. Human beings have the ability to reason. Human beings learn things. Human behavior is often learned behavior. Alot of things humans have done were based on learning what not to do.

Human beings can separate based on their race/ethnic group,etc. Humans can also come together with other groups with a common goal in mind. Human beings can be very horrible to other "out" groups. Human beings can also treat people within their own group horribly (I can personally vouch for this).

And human beings, for as much as they have fought and done things to one another, have also mixed and mingled depending on what regions you speak of.
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:03 PM
 
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The same can be said for an employee cafeteria at a factory. And let's extend it past employment. Try going to a local bar during football season and see how people distribute themselves. Team allegiance.

Something about me. I recently went to a nice bar in Huntsville, AL (I recently moved there over the summer). I wanted to watched baseball. Everyone else wanted to watch football, specifically University of Alabama. I can't pick a side because I feel no affinity or attachment to college football. I'm a baseball man. I was basically one of 2 people (I didn't discover the other person watching baseball until I moved seats) in the bar watching the baseball game. This was out of at least 70 or more people in the bar.

I had no practical way of distributing myself. I stood out in every way. I was there for a different sport (and that would have been the case for me at every bar in Alabama this time of year). I have no allegiance to college football. I basically learned how to enjoy my baseball game alone.

It proves that in some places, some situtations, race isn't the clincher. In my case, it could have been (I have no way of knowing, albeit I was one of maybe 2 or 3 Black people at that bar). However, the thing that had a big isolation factor was preferring baseball.
Another example, I take my grandson to school and pick him up. There are probably 10-15 grandparents who are there to pick up their grandkids, and we all talk to each other and know each other's names. Race has nothing to do with it, it's just that we instinctively know that we have much more in common with each other than we do with the 30 year old parents who are waiting for their kids.
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:07 PM
 
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Interracial relationships and marriages are on the rise, blows a hole through one of your points. I'm in an interracial relationship myself
Yep. I'm someone who has basically struck out when it comes to women. However, I have had many crushes on women outside of my race. I never felt like I needed to "stick with my own race". I've never operated like that. People are going to love who they love, whether it's intraracial or interracial. While a majority of people marry within their own race, interracial marriage is on the rise. And I think for people who are of the "stick with your own race" mentality, this bothers them. Some people wish this wasn't the case. Personally, if the opportunity to be in an interracial relationship presented itself, and it was the right woman, I'd give it a chance. I have nothing to lose. Some people may not want to see that happen.
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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Yep. I'm someone who has basically struck out when it comes to women. However, I have had many crushes on women outside of my race. I never felt like I needed to "stick with my own race". I've never operated like that. People are going to love who they love, whether it's intraracial or interracial. While a majority of people marry within their own race, interracial marriage is on the rise. And I think for people who are of the "stick with your own race" mentality, this bothers them. Some people wish this wasn't the case. Personally, if the opportunity to be in an interracial relationship presented itself, and it was the right woman, I'd give it a chance. I have nothing to lose. Some people may not want to see that happen.
My hope is that interracial marriage will become common enough that it will move us beyond all this race nonsense. Race isn't a 'thing' anyway, it's a social construct but it's hard to convince some people of that. If we get a large enough mixed race population there won't be anyway to pigeon hole people and ascribe a racial identity to them, maybe they will just be accepted as people..at least I hope to God that's what will happen.

My Aunt was so prejudiced that when her daughter married a black man she disowned her, but when they came to the door with my Aunt's first grandchild her heart melted and race didn't seem to matter any more. That baby is an adult now and my Aunt adores her, her world revolves around her.
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:46 PM
 
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Another example, I take my grandson to school and pick him up. There are probably 10-15 grandparents who are there to pick up their grandkids, and we all talk to each other and know each other's names. Race has nothing to do with it, it's just that we instinctively know that we have much more in common with each other than we do with the 30 year old parents who are waiting for their kids.
It makes sense in some ways. I'll go with an inverse. I'm in my early 30s, single, no kids. I often find myself on the outside in many cases. I find it hard to relate to those who have spouses and kids. And it's not because I don't want to. It's because I'm not at that point in my life. I found that people who are my age who are married/w kids were less likely to hang out with me, and more likely to hang out with fellow early 30s parents/married persons. Race isn't a factor. Marriage/parental status, however, is.

In many cases, you gravitate to those who take you in. You gravitate to those who try to make you feel welcome.
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:48 PM
 
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"Diversity is a strenght" is probably the most ignorant phrase parroted with absolutely no basis or proof. Any thinking person knows that is untrue.

As a nation, we should welcome legal immigrants, as we always have, but we should demand they assimilate into the culture. We should not be encouraging the balkanization of our country.
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Old 10-20-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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It makes sense in some ways. I'll go with an inverse. I'm in my early 30s, single, no kids. I often find myself on the outside in many cases. I find it hard to relate to those who have spouses and kids. And it's not because I don't want to. It's because I'm not at that point in my life. I found that people who are my age who are married/w kids were less likely to hang out with me, and more likely to hang out with fellow early 30s parents/married persons. Race isn't a factor. Marriage/parental status, however, is.
In many cases, you gravitate to those who take you in. You gravitate to those who try to make you feel welcome.
very true
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