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And interestingly, nobody ever mentions the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Israel. Neither do they have much to say about the expulsion of nearly 1 million Jews from their homes in Arab countries. If someone brings it up, the anti-Israel crowd attempts to redirect attention back to sole focus on what Israel has done wrong.
Here's another analogy: you are a teacher, and six kids - one black and five white - break the ceramic figurines lining the windowsill. You glare at the black kid, tell him how careless and bad he is, and say nothing to the whites. Another black kid, observing the singling out, says, "what about the whites? The teacher then turns her snark to the black kid who defended the " target," and says, "we're not talking about what the white kids did wrong....we are only talking about the black kid and his wrongdoing!"
The question would be "why." WHY focus on only the wrongdoing of the black kid, and give the whites a pass? There is only one explanation: the teacher is driven by bias against blacks.
Thank you, and thanks for this thread. Many of the anti-Israel posters are proving that their position is tied to their antisemitic attitudes. My favorite was the poster who complained, out of the blue, about "usury" and money-lending alongside her singular condemnation of Isrsel. If that isn't revealing the overlap between antisemitism and targeted condemnation of Israel, I don't know what is.
BTW, nobody was ever able to answer why a teacher would focus her animus completely on the sole black kid in a group of whites when they all committed the same "crime."
Back on topic to Ilhan Omar, there is a writer/lawyer named Scott Johnson who has done a ton of digging on her twisted and checkered history. It appears almost certain that her real name is not Omar, but instead Elmi. She came to the US in 1995, married Ahmed Hirsi in 2002. Then around 2009 she married Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, who Johnson says was actually her brother. He had arrived in the US via London, and likely needed the marriage in order to stay in the US legally.
According to Johnson, the state dept in 2008 implemented genetic testing of family reunification immigrants from Somalia and concluded that 87% of applicants to the reunification program were fraudulently claiming familial relationships, so the program was suspended. Ilhan Omar came in prior to the genetic testing. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...rious-case.php
I don't really blame her too much for all of this. She was only about 12 or 13 when she came to the US. She was the quintessential 'dreamer.' I don't think she belongs in the US House, however. And I do think she is an anti-Semite.
And here too we see the double standards. Omar cries bigotry, and liberals rush to her defense, calling her attackers "anti-Muslim" - while Jews who point out obvious antisemitism are told to stop playing the victim card.
Please reconsider your position on voting Trump. I can't stand him personally, either, and he makes me cringe, but I agree with his policies and decisions (mostly....not always), and the alternatives on the Dem side are so much worse, both in terms of their tolerance or outright defense of antisemitism as well as their hard-left swing toward socialism (both of which you've mentioned).
Because in most cases, they are secular Jews for whom Judaism takes a back seat to liberalism. It's also just a pattern of voting D regardless: after all, they considered FDR their hero, even though he sent Jews at the shoreline back to Hitler's waiting arms
Sounds like FDR didn't want open borders. Hmmm where have I heard this before.
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I don't think you know the definition of 'strawman.' A strawman is when you attribute to an interlocutor a point that was never made. Then you proceed to argue against said point. Clearly, I didn't do anything remotely close to that.
A 'strawman' is not when you find yourself confronted with a difficult question that you are completely unable to respond to.
Again, do you hand the loaded shotgun back to the neighbor???? Answer the question!!!
Yes you did, I never argued your stupid question, and it doesn't relate to the topic at hand. And yes, I do know the definition of a strawman
Yes you did, I never argued your stupid question, and it doesn't relate to the topic at hand. And yes, I do know the definition of a strawman
I didn't ask you to 'argue' my question (whatever that means) I ask you to answer it, which you seem to be unable to do.
How was my analogy a 'strawman.' Where did I attribute to an interlocutor (e.g. you) a point never made by said opponent?
edit: I don't think you know the definition of 'stupid question' either. A 'stupid question' is not a question you find yourself unable to answer. Are these PUI posts, by chance?
I didn't ask you to 'argue' my question (whatever that means) I ask you to answer it, which you seem to be unable to do.
How was my analogy a 'strawman.' Where did I attribute to an interlocutor (e.g. you) a point never made by said opponent?
edit: I don't think you know the definition of 'stupid question' either. A 'stupid question' is not a question you find yourself unable to answer. Are these PUI posts, by chance?
Your little shotgun story is a strawman argument because you make an assumption we agree this is a good analogy to the current Middle East situation. Isn't this why you brought the story up?
Sounds like FDR didn't want open borders. Hmmm where have I heard this before.
Learn the difference e between persecuted refugees, fleeing a murderous government targeting them for their religion, and foreigners simply arriving on our shore for a better life and invalid claims for asylum.
You are twisting to find a way to defend Omar's double standards. She is arguing that sanctions against a country have negative consequences, including hurting innocent people, and should not be used. Why then does she adamantly support an anti-Semitic movement that uses sanctions against Israel as a primary tactic? Does she not care about the innocent people in Israel?
And true, she doesn't suggest that there aren't situation where they aren't useful. She thinks they're useful against Israel. Period. The question is why. Why no good against all these other countries (mostly Muslim, by the way) that she mentioned, and yet she's OK with hurting innocent people - she did say sanctions hurt innocent people - if it's Israel? What other country does she encourage sanctions against?
It is scary the degree to which people deny the double standards when it comes to Israel. It's so obvious it's blinding. Read Krauthammer's last book (published posthumously) in which he explains how there is no other explanation for double standards other than antisemitism, for more insights, if you care to.
Venezuela is mostly Catholic the last time I checked. Again, the article has nothing to do with religion so attempting to paint this as a double-standard on the basis of religion is disingenuous.
Venezuela is mostly Catholic the last time I checked. Again, the article has nothing to do with religion so attempting to paint this as a double-standard on the basis of religion is disingenuous.
So what are you saying? Is she promoting sanctions against a Catholic country, along with the Jewish country, and just objecting when it's against Arabs and Muslims? From what I recall, she was opposed to sanctions against Iran, going on about the innocent people being hurt. Then she turns around and promotes sanctions against Israel.
How you people can deny Omar's double-standards when it comes to Jews and Israel just proves how deep the anti-Jew bias is. Also tells me the extent to which you will go to whitewash or deny antisemitism. You might as well just send a telegram - oops, a TEXT, sorry - to the antisemites saying "antisemitism is fine and dandy, so have at it."
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) I ask you to answer it, which you seem to be unable to do.
