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Old 12-02-2019, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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An avg. clothes dryer uses about 2.1 kWh of energy per load of laundry. An EV, maybe 28 kWh to move 100 miles at the speed limit.

Imagine if all your neighbors helped put their own 28 kWh loads on the grid about twice a week--just for their cars. Multiply nationwide.
Sounds to me like a great incentive for more people to put solar panels on their roofs.

 
Old 12-02-2019, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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And how much do you pay to fill up your tank. And we don't have a home charging station. We plug it into a normal outlet. It's like plugging in a toaster, no big deal. My husband fills up the Volt with gas once a year. Do the math to figure out how much we save.
Let's say I drive about the same as you-30 or so miles a day (given that you run only on your EV range). So about 1 gallon a day, or $2.80 or so. Now-I drive 100 a day, so of course burn considerably more. But with the Volt, I'd be running mostly on gas anyway since it doesn't have the range to handle my commute. Especially in the winter, pushing through snow, running a heater.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 10:17 PM
 
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The SJW EV cult will have to find a replacement for asphalt. It comes from the bottom of the cracking tower of a refinery. Weathering and wear and tear reduce the useful life of a street pretty quickly.

Do they plan to resurface their roads with recycled fast fashion and medication runoff?
 
Old 12-02-2019, 10:26 PM
 
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Sounds to me like a great incentive for more people to put solar panels on their roofs.
Are you okay with the reflected glare of millions of square miles of PV? And covering sensitive rural land as well as cities? Enough to power the demand created by the increase in motorized usage and the reductions in the 'carbon' you erroneously think is bad?

Are you okay with the fluorinated gases (e.g., nitrogen trifluoride, etc.) used in PV manufacture that have between 4 and 5 orders of magnitude more warming potential than the CO2 and CH4 that frighten the left so much?
http://www.clca.columbia.edu/papers/...0830%20MdW.pdf
 
Old 12-02-2019, 10:34 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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I'll stick with rechargeable hybrids until the battery technology is better.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I rice my F150 450 miles, pull into gas station and fill up. Back on highway in 10 minutes.

Electric car runs low on charge and needs a 5 hour charge to go 200 miles. Sounds like great technology. I’ll stick to my Ford.
You really need to update your information....

Which electric car has the longest range 2019?
Tesla Model S: 335 miles.
Tesla Model 3: 310 miles. ...
Tesla Model X: 295 miles. ...
Hyundai Kona Electric: 258 miles. ...
Audi e-tron: 248 miles. ...
Chevrolet Bolt EV: 238 miles. ...
Jaguar i-Pace: 234 miles. ...
Nissan Leaf e +: 226 miles. ...

Siemens, Porsche, and BMW formed a research group called FastCharge in 2016 with the mission to make EV charging faster. Last week, a Porsche Taycan test vehicle plugged into a new ultra-fast 450 kW charger developed by the group and took on enough electricity to drive an extra 62 miles in just 3 minutes. Using the same charger, a BMW i3 was able to get to an 80% state of charge in just 15 minutes.

Bear in mind this article is a year old... https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/16...faster-slowly/
 
Old 12-02-2019, 11:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Earth to 'enviro'-gadget heads: Wishing doesn't make it as practical as liquid fuel.

https://www.infowars.com/video-tesla...tric-vehicles/
Put solar panels all over it and a big wind turbine on the front to recharge on the fly.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by eastriver View Post
Are you okay with the reflected glare of millions of square miles of PV? And covering sensitive rural land as well as cities? Enough to power the demand created by the increase in motorized usage and the reductions in the 'carbon' you erroneously think is bad?

Are you okay with the fluorinated gases (e.g., nitrogen trifluoride, etc.) used in PV manufacture that have between 4 and 5 orders of magnitude more warming potential than the CO2 and CH4 that frighten the left so much?
http://www.clca.columbia.edu/papers/...0830%20MdW.pdf
Technology is moving fast....Try to keep up.

Installing solar panels on your home helps combat greenhouse gas emissions and reduces our collective dependence on fossil fuel.

https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/solarroof
 
Old 12-03-2019, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Few people drove coast to coast in horse drawn buggies when Fords rolled out.
My grandmother rode a mule from Little Rock, Arkansas, to Portland, Oregon. The man she married, first came here on a sailing ship.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Electric cars are the future. So you may as well get used to it. I don't understand why anyone would be against them in the first place. We have a Volt which kicks over to gas if need be. But it hardly ever does because we just plug it in the garage, no special equipment needed. The problem with all electric right now is there aren't enough charging stations especially at airports. That will change though as they become the norm.



Not against electric cars in general.

Just think that attempting to force the technology into existance before it's actually feasible through wishful thinking is rather sophomoric.

And the energy used to power the batteries still had to come from someplace.

Then you have to think about things like recharge time, battery longevity and not to mention how to replace revenue lost to reduced fuel use/taxation.


And your Volt cost the taxpayers double what you paid for it.
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