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Old 12-09-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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The investigation by US Attorney Durham into these matters is much broader in scope - it covers the intelligence agencies and wherever else they need to go. In contrast, IG Horwitz investigation was limited in scope to a procedural review within the FBI, and to a very limited extent the DOJ.

Also, the Durham investigation has teeth, as to where the Horwitz audit did not. Durham has subpoena power. Horwitz did not. Durham can question present AND past employees. Horwitz was only able to question FBI/DOJ current employees. Durham can question and subpoena anyone else he wants to Horwitz could not subpoena anyone. Durham has the power to indict and prosecute. Horwitz did not.

AG Barr is working closely with US Attorney Durham on this. The Durham investigation is by far the broader and more consequential investigation. That is why anyone with a brain who follows these matters will care what AG Barr thinks. He is the boss of US Attorney John Durham.
Wake me up when Durham's report drops, then.
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Old 12-09-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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No, they simply aren't. That's just spin.

I'm betting no one, not even lower level folks, gets the axe over this. Probably not even an official reprimand.

This was a giant strikeout for Trump and his team and puts the lie to his (and Barr's) claims that the FBI was illegally "spying" on Trump's campaign.

So sorry.

Have you read Durhams statement?
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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Wake me up when Durham's report drops, then.
When the indictments start, you mean.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The report is more than clear that there was nothing to the claim of impropriety in the investigation and no political motivation in its conduct. End of discussion. Barr, for his part in trying to change the clear conclusions of the report, is a disgrace to his office.
Barr has lost all credibility. Everyone looks at him as a Trump flunkie.

The IG Report carries a lot more weight.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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Apparently the red team here doesn't care about trump's pay for play with Ukraine aide because this topic is a sticky instead of the House Impeachment Hearings currently in progress.
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What pay for play?? You drank the kool aid.. all propaganda, all conjecture, all inuendo, no facts.. NONE.. blatant lies.. just saying it doesn't make it so.. this is the tactic that the democrats use.. say it long enough so the gullible believes it.. deep thinkers cannot be swayed by propaganda .
What is it about double and triple hearsay that these people don’t get???
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
The investigation by US Attorney Durham into these matters is much broader in scope - it covers the intelligence agencies and wherever else they need to go. In contrast, IG Horwitz investigation was limited in scope to a procedural review within the FBI, and to a very limited extent the DOJ.

Also, the Durham investigation has teeth, as to where the Horwitz audit did not. Durham has subpoena power. Horwitz did not. Durham can question present AND past employees. Horwitz was only able to question FBI/DOJ current employees. Durham can question and subpoena anyone else he wants to Horwitz could not subpoena anyone. Durham has the power to indict and prosecute. Horwitz did not.

AG Barr is working closely with US Attorney Durham on this. The Durham investigation is by far the broader and more consequential investigation. That is why anyone with a brain who follows these matters will care what AG Barr thinks. He is the boss of US Attorney John Durham.
So let us know when we have some concrete information from Durham rather than your rank speculation about what he might have to say. Meanwhile, the much-anticipated IG report appears to be a dud for conspiracy theorists.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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As predictable as the sun rising in the morning, the Trumpies don't like what's in the IG report so they have to tell us it's all a fraud.

Funny thing is, how many of them here spent so much time the last several months so eagerly awaiting this thing and telling everyone it was going to be a bombshell and whatnot.

LOL@Trumpies.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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As predictable as the sun rising in the morning, the Trumpies don't like what's in the IG report so they have to tell us it's all a fraud.

Who has told you it's a fraud?
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:15 PM
 
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Default Durham disagrees with findings of IG report

Interesting. Report should be out at 3

https://imgur.com/JklISql
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bar...of-fisa-report
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