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View Poll Results: Do you believe race relations are getting worse and we are moving toward racial separatism?
Yes 99 43.42%
No 129 56.58%
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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The Left has completely destroyed the conservative/Right political structure via inviting in effectively 50+ MILLION non-Anglo/Left wing voters since the 1965 Immigration Act.



They rigged the system forevermore using flat-out lies and manipulation. They have committed such an egregious, traitorous act against Anglos that I hope they burn in Hell for the treason and hatred they have inflicted on a once-fine nation.
Did you just come home from a AmRen convention or something - to get you all stoked up?

Well, honey, hate to break it to you....but the Constitution doesn't have an amendment or clause that says Anglo Whites have to have political, economic and social dominance over the USA. You still do, but these days, you actually have to listen and share with folks who don't look like you.

Sorry, but 1882, 1924 and 1956 ain't coming back. And I think we're a better country for all people today, rather than a better country for some as in the past.
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I'm not disputing that, but I don't think that contradicts what we said about differences in cultures sometimes causing problems.

Btw, I lived in a SoCal community from 1963-1986 that had many people whose parents were born in Mexico, and it seemed to me that there was a big difference in their culture compared to those Hispanics/Latinos whose ancestors had lived in what is now the U.S. for many generations.
Well, sure, but it doesn't mean that we can't get along (I know there are differences between those in my ethnicity who are recent immigrants vs those who've been here for generations, in my neighborhood - but we get along). It takes an open mind, open heart and just being plain understanding. That poster isn't going to be among those with those qualities.

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Old 12-18-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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I was taught not to respond to schoolyard taunts as a young child, and I've taught my children the same. Looks like you missed that lesson. Oh well.
Requesting a debate is not a taunt.

But I do understand why you refuse to debate something when you know you're wrong.
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Well, sure, but it doesn't mean that we can't get along (I know there are differences between those in my ethnicity who are recent immigrants vs those who've been here for generations). It takes an open mind, open heart and just being plain understanding. That poster isn't going to be among those with those qualities.
Yes, agreed, but the subject is race/ethnicity, and my point is that YES, we can all get along, but that race/ethnicity has less to do with racial conflict than a difference in culture does.

I think it comes down to assimilation vs. retaining one's ancestral culture. What causes some people to become upset, I think, is when some people become long-term residents of the U.S. without actually seem to want to adopt it as their new country, even after living here for many years.

P.S. on Edit: I think that it IS very possible to retain one's ancestral culture AND assimilate to at least some degree, too. For example, look how many Irish/Scottish festivals there are, and how many people of Japanese, Italian, Swedish, Grecian (or whatever) ancestry openly and proudly display those countries's flags or decor in their homes and bring those countries' foods to workplace or community potlucks. I would add people of African ancestry to the list, but I think that most people of African ancestry have now become so "Americanized" that their ancestral culture has become almost lost, which I think is a shame. (And that is why I think that the idea of Kwanzaa was a very good idea even if it is a "made up" thing.)

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Old 12-18-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Requesting a debate is not a taunt.

But I do understand why you refuse to debate something when you know you're wrong.
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Yes, agreed, but the subject is race/ethnicity, and my point is that YES, we can all get along, but that race/ethnicity has less to do with racial conflict than a difference in culture does.

I think it comes down to assimilation vs. retaining one's ancestral culture. What causes some people to become upset, I think, is when some people become long-term residents of the U.S. without actually seem to want to adopt it as their new country, even after living here for many years.
That's really a difference without much of a distinction. It takes the willingness to bridge those differences, and find commonalities rather than harp on us vs. them. Look at the Catholics vs Protestants conflict in Ulster or Northern Ireland - speak the same language, racially similar - but they've fought each other for ages. Assimilation has little to do with that.

I guess the question should be: Are you willing to be part of the solution, or part of the problem? And there are some posters who are part of the problem, or won't do anything to make it less of a problem, to justify their personal prejudices.

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Old 12-18-2019, 10:11 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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It certainly doesn't seem to be getting better
Where in the world do you come up with this stuff. Are you a segregationist? There’s no evidence whatsoever from any credible news source that race relations in this country are so fractured that a scenario like you describe would ever happen.
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Did you just come home from a AmRen convention or something - to get you all stoked up?

Well, honey, hate to break it to you....but the Constitution doesn't have an amendment or clause that says Anglo Whites have to have political, economic and social dominance over the USA. You still do, but these days, you actually have to listen and share with folks who don't look like you.

Sorry, but 1882, 1924 and 1956 ain't coming back. And I think we're a better country for all people today, rather than a better country for some as in the past.
Fine. But then why did Ted Kennedy and his fellow criminals have to lie to pass the 1965 Immigration Act?


They lied because that was the only way they could completely destroy what America was. And there are people that don't like that they were lied to, and frankly have every right to demand that the lie be remedied.
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Fine. But then why did Ted Kennedy and his fellow criminals have to lie to pass the 1965 Immigration Act?


They lied because that was the only way they could completely destroy what America was. And there are people that don't like that they were lied to, and frankly have every right to demand that the lie be remedied.
LOL. You're talking to the wrong person on that.

I frankly think the 1965 Immigration Act was an improvement because it helped correct the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act and 1924 Asian Immigration Act, which were blatanly racist against folks like me, and balanced out an immigration policy that was biased towards Europeans and excluded or restricted everyone else.

Anyway, most Europeans today have little incentive to come to the USA, except for perhaps Eastern Europeans; though more of the Poles go to the UK and Ireland to work (that might change with Brexit though).
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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That's really a difference without much of a distinction. It takes the willingness to bridge those differences, and find commonalities rather than harp on us vs. them. Look at the Catholics vs Protestants conflict in Ulster or Northern Ireland - speak the same language, racially similar - but they've fought each other for ages. Assimilation has little to do with that.
That is a religious issue compounded by the fact that until fairly recently, the people in Northern Ireland were governed by people from England (and also from Scotland) who were Protestant and treated the Irish horribly.

People having different religions does not cause as much of a problem here in the U.S., although there are some notable exceptions. (People who hate Jews and Muslims come to mind, but I think and hope that people who hate others just because of their religion are just a small minority.)

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