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Old 12-29-2019, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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I am neutral on 2A so don't have any opinion on the gun aspect of this. But what does strike me is that it is only a matter of time before someone straps on an explosive vest. Explosives are easier to make than drugs so I am surprised it has not happened yet. When it does, guns won't be of much use. We live in a violent world and the nuts seem to be getting more brazen.
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Do you have any idea where I stand on gun ownership and the 2nd amendment? Have you read my posts on the last three or four pages of this thread?

Go argue with someone else, please.
It's easy to mix people up in a 200+post thread. I did go back and read your initial posts. I apologize.
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I am neutral on 2A so don't have any opinion on the gun aspect of this. But what does strike me is that it is only a matter of time before someone straps on an explosive vest. Explosives are easier to make than drugs so I am surprised it has not happened yet. When it does, guns won't be of much use. We live in a violent world and the nuts seem to be getting more brazen.
You could say the same thing about airbags. It's only a matter of time before you're run over by a semi. All the airbags in the world aren't going to help. Should we drop airbags?
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:53 PM
 
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Right. And gun ownership is above the average for the country. Interesting.
Yup, gun ownership is 15% higher in Texas than Maryland, but somehow Maryland has a significantly higher gun murder rate and murder rate overall....it's like those 2 things are entirely unrelated.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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You’re talking to the wrong poster. I never said that.

I said that a mass shooter would find Texas just as soft a target as any other state. This Bobby poster was trying to make Texas sound tough, but I know better.
No, I'm not talking to the wrong poster. I didn't say you said that but I WAS responding to your repeated diatribe regarding things along the lines of "Texans think they're tough but they're soft" yada yada yada.

And you didn't say Texas is "just as soft a target as any other state." You went further than that.

But whatever. Shrug. My stats were in response to those types of statements and were meant to show simply that Texas has a higher than average gun ownership rate per capita and a lower gun violence rate per capita. This doesn't mean Texans are "soft" - but it may mean that many Texans are simply very responsible gun owners.

But you're right - maybe we're not as badass (aka dangerous) as some areas of the country. For example, Detroit ranks very high when it comes to violent crime rates per capita. Bet they're more badass than folks down in Texas.
https://www.alarms.org/top-100-most-...es-in-america/
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:19 PM
 
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And moves the goal posts. And ignores facts. Oh well.

I've already posted statistics and sources that show that while Texas is ranked #18 out of 50 states for gun ownership per capita, it is ranked #27 out of 50 per capita when it comes to gun violence. So yes, it does seem that Texas is safer than the national average when it comes to gun violence, ESPECIALLY considering that Texas ranks higher than average on gun ownership per capita.
Texas is ranked much higher for mass shootings as was shown previously. And Texas leads the nation in accidental shootings by children as shown by the Houston Chronicle this summer.

Texas leads nation in unintentional shootings by children
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...y-14175860.php

Not sure Texas being #27 for gun deaths is so great either. Since so many blue states have far fewer gun violence deaths, how does one explain that?
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:30 PM
 
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No, I'm not talking to the wrong poster. I didn't say you said that but I WAS responding to your repeated diatribe regarding things along the lines of "Texans think they're tough but they're soft" yada yada yada.

And you didn't say Texas is "just as soft a target as any other state." You went further than that.

But whatever. Shrug. My stats were in response to those types of statements and were meant to show simply that Texas has a higher than average gun ownership rate per capita and a lower gun violence rate per capita. This doesn't mean Texans are "soft" - but it may mean that many Texans are simply very responsible gun owners.

But you're right - maybe we're not as badass (aka dangerous) as some areas of the country. For example, Detroit ranks very high when it comes to violent crime rates per capita. Bet they're more badass than folks down in Texas.
https://www.alarms.org/top-100-most-...es-in-america/
I’m from Arizona, so I’m like whatever. Don’t know why you guys are always telling me about Detroit as if my feelings would be hurt.

Yeah, Detroit has some hyper dangerous areas. So do Dallas, Houston and San Antonio. Comparing Texas to one city seems a bit ridiculous. The appropriate comparison is Texas vs Michigan.

And yes, I said that Texas wasn’t full of badasses, and I’m not impressed with high gun ownership. Do your guns pop or do they sit in a safe? That’s the difference. If your guns don’t pop when trouble arises, doesn’t matter how many guns you own.

I said nothing about Texas being more dangerous or full of violence. Texas is probably no worse than anywhere else in that regard.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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which falls in line with thou shalt not kill....even in self defense.
That's a mis-translation, of course.

In the language of the original bible, that commandment is translated as "Thou shalt not murder."

Nowhere is "even in self-defense" mentioned.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Did you see the video?

Carrying a gun stopped a murderer from potentially killing many more people.

It was very rational to be ready to stop a massacre.
Just wanted to be clear, church attendees need to carry guns but liberals live in fear.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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We have a violence problem in our culture.

Do you believe the presence of an inanimate object makes people violent?
We have a violence problem unheard of in other countries, your solution is more guns.
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