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Originally Posted by KathrynAragon View Post
I have not read or seen any coverage stating that anyone who was armed (other than the gunman) was killed. Thank goodness.
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Suspect shoots and kills 2 inside a Texas church before parishioners fatally shoot him
How do you know who was, or was not killed? How do you know those killed did not have guns? Why would you add, "Thank goodness" for the armed supposedly not getting killed?
No truth to that. Think I forgot about El Paso Walmart? Think I forgot Luby’s in Killeen? Think I forgot about the Wedgewood Church shooting? Think I forgot about Santa Fe High School shooting? Think I forgot about the Midland-Odessa shooting??
Staaaahp. Texas or Texans are no tougher than anywhere else. When put to the test, Texas folds like a cheap Harbor Freight ladder every time. I’m not buying what you’re attempting to sell here. Texas is just as easy to hit as any other state. And the consequences are no worse than they are anywhere else.
Texas is a soft target, and we both know it.
Never said they were "tougher", I said they were better shots and more likely to be armed. That means that they are more likely to kill a would be mass shooter before they do much damage and it also means that they are more likely to be more effective mass shooters.
Most of the situations you list happened in "gun free zones", which are soft targets no matter where they happen. In fact, handguns were potentially illegal to carry in churches until earlier this year when the law was changed....a move that current Democrat front runner Joe Biden called "irrational"
Fortunately, no one cares what Biden thinks and there were multiple people carrying in that church so that the gunman only had 2 seconds to live once he opened fire. Had Biden had his way, the gunman would have easily killed many more while everyone waited on the cops to arrive.
Never said they were "tougher", I said they were better shots and more likely to be armed. That means that they are more likely to kill a would be mass shooter before they do much damage and it also means that they are more likely to be more effective mass shooters.
Most of the situations you list happened in "gun free zones", which are soft targets no matter where they happen. In fact, handguns were potentially illegal to carry in churches until earlier this year when the law was changed....a move that current Democrat front runner Joe Biden called "irrational"
Fortunately, no one cares what Biden thinks and there were multiple people carrying in that church so that the gunman only had 2 seconds to live once he opened fire. Had Biden had his way, the gunman would have easily killed many more while everyone waited on the cops to arrive.
That is a lib's wonderland, no one armed but the gunman...…that is how deranged they truly are. It is truly pathetic, much like the party they represent.
How do you know who was, or was not killed? How do you know those killed did not have guns? Why would you add, "Thank goodness" for the armed supposedly not getting killed?
Well, there's video of it. Watch it if you want to know what happened and who got shot.
That said, I have watched it, and I believe the first person to get shot was indeed armed. It looks like he was going for his concealed carry and that's when the gunman opened fire. He got off 2 shots before one of the 5 others who were armed put him down. If not for them, the gunman probably kills a dozen of them.
How do you know who was, or was not killed? How do you know those killed did not have guns? Why would you add, "Thank goodness" for the armed supposedly not getting killed?
Sigh.
Aren't you tired lugging around those heavy goalposts? Sheeze!
There is nothing in the news stating that anyone who was armed was shot or killed. There is a video of the entire thing, which shows exactly who was killed and how and no one who drew their gun was shot or killed, other than the gunman. There are eye witnesses, There's no indication that anyone who was TRYING TO PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE was injured or killed. Nor that they injured or killed anyone other than the perpetrator, for that matter. That's what I'm saying. And thank goodness MORE PEOPLE WERE NOT KILLED.
Is that clear enough for you? And quit trying to pretend that you weren't saying that the gunman shot and/or killed the people who drew their guns at him, because that IS what you were saying until you got called out, and then you moved the goal posts.
Transparency - it works for some people, and not for others.
So this is supposed to be some sort of happy ending because everyone is armed. Plenty of other countries don't have this problem, they can go to church or synagogue in peace and don't need to be armed to the teeth. I guess we are less religious and have more mental health issues than other countries, I know it could never be our gun culture.
Oh? Other countries are providing armed guards for synagogues.
Well, there's video of it. Watch it if you want to know what happened and who got shot.
That said, I have watched it, and I believe the first person to get shot was indeed armed. It looks like he was going for his concealed carry and that's when the gunman opened fire. He got off 2 shots before one of the 5 others who were armed put him down. If not for them, the gunman probably kills a dozen of them.
There has been no statement (nor does it show on the video) that anyone who drew their gun at the gunman was injured or killed. Yes, it looks like the first person who got shot MAY have been going for a concealed handgun but frankly, we just don't know whether he had one or not because he was immediately shot and no weapon shows up on the video.
Right, and just try going to a religious service in some countries. You won't have to worry about someone with a gun, but you will have to worry about bombs.
There has been no statement (nor does it show on the video) that anyone who drew their gun at the gunman was injured or killed. Yes, it looks like the first person who got shot MAY have been going for a concealed handgun but frankly, we just don't know whether he had one or not because he was immediately shot and no weapon shows up on the video.
When I viewed the video it looked like the first guy was going for his gun when he was shot, he never got it out and that's why I said what I did. Either way, it doesn't matter. If someone died while trying to prevent a massacre, it was a brave way to go out and it allowed the others to get their guns out and put down the would be mass shooter.
When I viewed the video it looked like the first guy was going for his gun when he was shot, he never got it out and that's why I said what I did. Either way, it doesn't matter. If someone died while trying to prevent a massacre, it was a brave way to go out and it allowed the others to get their guns out and put down the would be mass shooter.
Oh I agree. My only point was that there is nothing stated in any news coverage that I've seen, or on the video which I've seen, that anyone who was armed was shot by the gunman. Maybe the first guy had a gun, maybe not, but I haven't seen that gun and no news coverage has mentioned it. Regardless, if he had a gun, he never drew it. No one who drew a gun was shot or killed other than the perpetrator as far as I know.
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