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Old 12-29-2019, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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3 killed, including gunman, in Texas church shooting during live-streamed service
In 2017, when carrying was not allowed in churches in Texas, Devin Patrick Kelley of New Braunfels, Texas, fatally shot 26 people and wounded 20 others during a mass shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.

There were more than 26 people in that video waiting to be shot. You want that?
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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In 2017, when carrying was not allowed in churches in Texas, Devin Patrick Kelley of New Braunfels, Texas, fatally shot 26 people and wounded 20 others during a mass shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.

There were more than 26 people in that video waiting to be shot. You want that?


Texas sure has a gun violence problem!
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Oh I agree. My only point was that there is nothing stated in any news coverage that I've seen, or on the video which I've seen, that anyone who was armed was shot by the gunman. Maybe the first guy had a gun, maybe not, but I haven't seen that gun and no news coverage has mentioned it. Regardless, if he had a gun, he never drew it. No one who drew a gun was shot or killed other than the perpetrator as far as I know.
I am not sure what you are arguing over. May be it is uncomfortable for you to talk about the real lesson here. Who cares that no one who drew a gun was shot or killed?Now listen up and repeat after me. A good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun.
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Texas sure has a gun violence problem!
Beto in response to what happened in the church today said ‘Hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, AK-47"
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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In 2017, when carrying was not allowed in churches in Texas, Devin Patrick Kelley of New Braunfels, Texas, fatally shot 26 people and wounded 20 others during a mass shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.

There were more than 26 people in that video waiting to be shot. You want that?
Why would I want that, and why are you even saying that to me?
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Texas sure has a gun violence problem!

Where do you get that piece of DUBIOUS information? People are violent, guns aren't, and Texas is safer than many places.


Yet you conveniently ignore Kathryn's questions.
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I am not sure what you are arguing over. May be it is uncomfortable for you to talk about the real lesson here. Who cares that no one who drew a gun was shot or killed?Now listen up and repeat after me. A good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun.
Why are you talking to me in this manner? LOL I'm not sure what YOU are arguing over. All I was responding to was the assertion that people who were armed were shot by the gunman. I have seen no articles or interviews that support this assertion.

Maybe you should read my comments on the last few pages of this thread to get a clearer picture of what I believe. You will see that I have no need to repeat anything after you.
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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Mostly Illegals and Druggies from California or NYC.
Ehhhh...no.
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So, you believe a God would create robots without freedom of choice?
I don’t believe God created anything.

But if he’s so omnipotent and demands that folks serve him, what’s the sense in worshipping if he’s not gonna protect you? For what?

Nah. Miss me with it.
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Free will. Do I need to explain it to you?
No such thing. Everything you do is incumbent upon a need.
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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One has died and the another is in critical condition. The "good guy with a gun" couldn't save those.

The US is becoming a war zone wherever we go!
He saved 25 others. Does that matter to you?
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Where do you get that piece of DUBIOUS information? People are violent, guns aren't, and Texas is safer than many places.


Yet you conveniently ignore Kathryn's questions.
And moves the goal posts. And ignores facts. Oh well.

I've already posted statistics and sources that show that while Texas is ranked #18 out of 50 states for gun ownership per capita, it is ranked #27 out of 50 per capita when it comes to gun violence. So yes, it does seem that Texas is safer than the national average when it comes to gun violence, ESPECIALLY considering that Texas ranks higher than average on gun ownership per capita.
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