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Guess it is true that no good deed goes unpunished.
"The US Navy has relieved the captain of the coronavirus-stricken aircraft carrier USS Roosevelt days after his plea for help for his sailors went public.
Acting US Navy Secretary Thomas Modly announced on Thursday afternoon that Captain Brett Crozier had been relieved of his command of the nuclear aircraft carrier, four days after he penned a scathing letter to Navy leaders calling for stronger action to address the COVID-19 outbreak he said was unnecessarily threatening his sailors lives. "
It also shows that the commander of a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier showed EXTREMELY POOR JUDGEMENT by throwing the Secretary of Defense AND the President of the United States under the bus!
Had something similar happened in North Korea, Russia, China, Iran, and in other places, he would have met with a much more severe punishment! He's lucky!
The man may not have followed the policy book of the US military but he is still a hero by me. His speaking out likely made a big difference in the health and well being of those under his command.
So a traitor is a hero?
A soldier is not a hero by leaking classified information.
There is a video out there of the sailors on the ship cheering him and shouting his name as he is lead away after being fired by Trump for speaking out.
Desperate? NO he panicked. He has to have faith in the chain of command. He needs to be the example. If he fails at that his crew fails. I don't know who leaked what, but someone did. He has seen his last promotion and likely his last command. It's a shame because CO of a carrier leads to Admiral every time unless they screw it up.
Psssst here is a secret. On that carrier is the task force commander. Normally at least a 2 star Admiral. That is where that Captain's request should have went. It was that Admiral's decision what to do next and the Captains duty to abide by it.
Covid 19 isn't going to wait for the chain of command to get off their asses and do something. The commander did the right thing. Sadly, he was punished for it.
Thank you for explaining what is obvious to any who has served or who dont put party before rational thought.
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Originally Posted by Oldhag1
No. The Captain (equivalent to an Army Colonel) was relieved of command because he created a security issue; he allowed classified information to become public. Do you people not get that announcing to the world that a ship is full of incapacitated soldiers, for whatever reason, gives information about current readiness and chinks in the armor? He did this also after the notice went down the pipes that information about service members with virus was only to be released in general terms through the pentagon, not by installation, ship, or command. This was not done to spare the Trump Administration of anything, it was done to keep information from bad actors.
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Originally Posted by trobesmom
Covid 19 isn't going to wait for the chain of command to get off their asses and do something. The commander did the right thing. Sadly, he was punished for it.
He was punished for letting the world know that a major US military asset was not mission capable.
Covid 19 isn't going to wait for the chain of command to get off their asses and do something. The commander did the right thing. Sadly, he was punished for it.
The “right thing” is equivalent to letting the whole world know where the American carriers were before the Pearl Harbor attack.
10 year Navy vet here - that CO resigned his command the instant he transmitted that email.
Period, the end, carry on smartly.
There are no exceptions, there is no political correctness, there is no nuance. He agreed to the conditions of the UCMJ, the oath of his commission and the even less forgiving rules of being given the gold star of command. He knew them and he willingly and knowingly violated them. That does not make him heroic, valiant or courageous. It makes him a moron who will ride a desk until he is quietly retired right out of the Navy.
From the enlisted man's perspective, few things are scarier than a senior or commanding officer who is that casual with the chain of command. A breakdown of faith in that chain on a ship that has >6,000 people on it while underway could be catastrophic. He had to go and the Navy had to reinforce the faith in chain of command.
I don't think a man who was raised to the ranks commanding a ship, not just any ship but the pride of the fleet, a carrier, after years of service and knowing exactly what that entails is casual with his command.
What I see here is a courageous man, knowing he is risking his career, to save the lives of his crew, a totally selfless act on his part. There is no higher calling other than facing death for them himself.
We have had all too many institutions protecting themselves with a code of silence: Universities and other schools, Boy Scouts, churches, Police Departments etc. and the military is right up there with them. In case of fire, break glass.
I don't think a man who was raised to the ranks commanding a ship, not just any ship but the pride of the fleet, a carrier, after years of service and knowing exactly what that entails is casual with his command.
What I see here is a courageous man, knowing he is risking his career, to save the lives of his crew. There is no higher calling.
We have had all too many institutions protecting themselves with a code of silence: Universities and other schools, Boy Scouts, churches, Police Departments etc. and the military is right up there with them. In case of fire, break glass.
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