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Old 06-04-2020, 03:09 PM
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Passions in this issue will be high on both sides of the argument and it will most likely get very ugly (along with everything else). I would like to see them moved to a facility that is associated with the Civil War Museum so they can be displayed in the correct context and with information that historically correct.

 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:15 PM
 
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The statue is being moved to some warehouse, they can at least offer it up to somebody, maybe even donate the money to some worthy cause, instead of pilfering it from the budget of public safety.

Hope they at least have the nads to move it during the day instead of the wee hours like New Orleans did.
Richmond might have been one of the former Confederate capitals. However, Richmond is not the same city it was back in those days. It's not even the same city it was back in 1990. I don't think removing it during the day would stir up rage among a majority of the city's residents. I notice the majority of the anger and rage comes from people who don't live there.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:17 PM
 
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It was bound to happen.

I thought this was about police brutality myself but obviously it was always going to be about race.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-e-...161839841.html
That goes hand in hand...
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:18 PM
 
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I never understood the need for monuments of Traitors.

Many times these statues are placed next to American flags. I best those Traitors are turning in their graves seeing the American flag fly above them. They worked hard to burn that flag and what it represents to the ground.

Because they are Traitors, in case you missed that part.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:18 PM
 
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Will Robert E Lee be deleted from all History Books, etc as well?
No, it will be history to remind us not to let those ideologies rise again...
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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I never understood the need for monuments of Traitors.
I understand why. Consider why they were put up in the first place. They were put up as a big middle finger to African-Americans, and to the north. It was a way of saying "The war might be over, but the Blacks better know their place".
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Good. Every Confederate monument needs to be taken down. Monuments that pay public accolades to Confederates should come down.
Monuments to traitors who tried to destroy America should never have been erected. It's a damned shame Grant was running short of rope.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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No he won't. He will still be mentioned in textbooks. He just won't be given public accolades. His likeness won't be displayed in public. Put his statue in a museum to show "we used to lionize idiots like this. Not anymore".
But you idolize idiots now.

If you support only statues of perfect people you should tear down every statue.

Your heroes were no more perfect than Robert E Lee.

FDR put thousands of innocent American citizens in prisons just because of their last name.

JFC cheated on his wife over and over again.

Obama was a compulsive liar.

Lincoln killed 700,000 Americans

Etc.

Robert E Lee was a hero and patriot of the highest order.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Robert E Lee, August 5, 1869 on declining an invitation to attend a ceremony at Gettysburg:
"Dear Sir--Absence from Lexington has prevented my receiving until to-day your letter of the 26th ult., inclosing an invitation from the Gettysburg Battle-field Memorial Association, to attend a meeting of the officers engaged in that battle at Gettysburg, for the purpose of marking upon the ground by enduring memorials of granite the positions and movements of the armies on the field. My engagements will not permit me to be present. I believe if there, I could not add anything material to the information existing on the subject. I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered. Very respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
R. E. Lee. "

http://www2.vcdh.virginia.edu/saxon/...1869.09.03.xml
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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As far as the monuments go they should have never been put up in the first place but since they were up I would have liked to see them stay up to show how f'd up society was and still can be.

Then again, it's not even legitimate property so they could have been removed by anyone who wanted to.

Whatever.
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