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Old 06-04-2020, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Hmmmm……monuments to white supremacy seem to be losing their charm.
When will they rename the Russell Senate office building named after a Democratic segregationist??

 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:49 PM
 
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Yes, and these materials are available to anyone these days with just a few mouse clicks, and yet still there are the denials of the causes for secession, and ironically, the very people who flatly deny what all these public documents show, accuse others of "revisionist history"!
Such materials are easy to find. I've gone online and posted this material here on city-data. I've done it over and over. I'm not doing it this time. The way I see it, if said persons want to keep wallowing in the Lost Cause lie, then that says more about them. They aren't brainwashed, they aren't ignorant. If they refuse to listen, in spite of ample proof, that's not ignorance or being brainwashed. That is just holding on to a bigoted way of thinking. That is being hardheaded and willfully stupid.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:49 PM
 
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Perhaps they’ll go into a museum. I’d take those statues if they aren’t claimed. Love collecting stuff reactionaries try to ban. When amazon was about to stop selling confederate flags a few years back I bought one.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Will Robert E Lee be deleted from all History Books, etc as well?
What if his family takes back the land used for Arlington Cemetary in retaliation??
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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George Washington didn't fight specifically for the right to own slaves. Slavery was legal then. It was no longer legal after the Emancipation Proclamation.

Further proof that what is legal is not necessarily moral, ethical, or honorable.
The conflict over slavery was inevitable -- It began well before the American Revolution, at a time when the anti-slavery movement was well underway; half-*****ed measures like the Missouri Compromise and Kansas-Nebraska Act simply intensified the conflict, and the self-righteous righteousness of over-zealous Northern Abolitionists (all you simpletons in Lefty-land take note) did nothing to reduce the ultimate cost.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:52 PM
 
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Perhaps they’ll go into a museum. I’d take those statues and put them on my property if they aren’t claimed. Love collecting stuff reactionaries try to ban. When amazon was about to stop selling confederate flags a few years back I bought one.
This is the thing. Robert E. Lee isn't banned. He just won't be honored in public. If you want to put a statue of Robert E. Lee on your front lawn, the Constitution gives you that right. There is a difference between not honoring someone in a public space, and banning something. The fact that you love being reactionary says alot about your spiteful mindset.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:56 PM
 
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Monuments to traitors who tried to destroy America should never have been erected. It's a damned shame Grant was running short of rope.
Grant would have disagreed, stop rewriting history, many of the southern officers wanted to fight a guerilla war which Lee rejected. If you were in charge there would have been one, and the south would have likely won.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 03:58 PM
 
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All things white will eventually be gone. The civil war should have never happened. Hundreds of thousands of whites killing whites. Insane. Should have done what other nations did to end slavery.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:01 PM
 
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All things white will eventually be gone. The civil war should have never happened. Hundreds of thousands of whites killing whites. Insane. Should have done what other nations did to end slavery.
I'm going to take a wild stab at this. You are pro-Confederate.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:05 PM
 
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My heroes were not treasonous.

Lee was offered the command of the Union Army twice in 1861, and turned it down to protect his right to own other human beings. He does not deserve any place of honor among decent people, regardless of how valiantly he might have fought to destroy the Union.
No he turned it down because he didn't want to fight against Virginia. Slavery had nothing to do with his decision
"Mr. Blair, I look upon secession as anarchy. If I owned the four millions of slaves in the South, I would sacrifice them all to the Union; but how can I draw my sword upon Virginia, my native State?"
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