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Old 06-04-2020, 04:05 PM
 
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It's been happening for years, this is their history, and they are erasing it piece by piece. I wonder if State of Georgia employees still get Robert E. Lee's birthday off every year? I'll bet nobody's fighting to have that changed.
Alabama does, IIRC.

Because - well, Alabama.

Well, one less participation prize in a place of honor - good.

 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:07 PM
 
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Confederate monuments are the world's largest participation trophies. they came in second in a two man race.

Last edited by PesachSeder; 06-04-2020 at 04:08 PM.. Reason: mispelling.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:14 PM
 
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Confederate monuments are the world's largest participation trophies. they came in second in a two man race.
You are obviously sexist.

This does bring up an interesting point, why the focus on confederate male statues? Once again females (biological or otherwise) are treated as second class citizens. In the interest of fairness, we need to start tearing down all those female confederate statues pronto!
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:18 PM
 
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You are obviously sexist.

This does bring up an interesting point, why the focus on confederate male statues? Once again females (biological or otherwise) are treated as second class citizens. In the interest of fairness, we need to start tearing down all those female confederate statues pronto!
Do you know of any? I honestly don't. The monuments in question, on Monument Ave. in Richmond, VA are all of Confederate men.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_Avenue
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Removing a public monument does not "erase history."

Glorifying traitors by erecting a public statue 90 years after the fact is what distorts it.
That's exactly why I think they should remain up.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It was bound to happen.

I thought this was about police brutality myself but obviously it was always going to be about race.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-e-...161839841.html
I think the states that acknowledge Lee Day combine it with MLK.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:28 PM
 
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My heroes were not treasonous.

Lee was offered the command of the Union Army twice in 1861, and turned it down to protect his right to own other human beings. He does not deserve any place of honor among decent people, regardless of how valiantly he might have fought to destroy the Union.

Actually this was his response:


" I look upon secession as anarchy. If I owned the four millions of slaves in the South I would sacrifice them all to the Union; but how can I draw my sword upon Virginia, my native state? "


His statue should be removed, in an effort to erase the legacy of those whose efforts would have resulted in the continuation of an abhorrent practice.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:35 PM
 
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That is essentially what it is. A monument to white supremacy. That is what the Confederate cause was about. It was about keeping Blacks enslaved. It's in the Articles of Secession, the Cornerstone Speech, and the Confederate Constitution. It's in the original documents.
They are monuments to and reminders of white supremacy.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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They are monuments to and reminders of white supremacy.
Just in your twisted mind.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 04:41 PM
 
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They were Americans and American soldiers.
Allow me to point out that the entire brouhaha came about because they didn't want to be Americans any more. And they weren't American soldiers - American soldiers were the ones they set out to kill.

(I mean, yes - Lincoln agreed that they were Americans, albeit very, very bad ones. So if that's the perspective...)
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