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They have certainly fooled their lapdogs, the stupid minorities.
https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...-voter-id-law/ Christine Krucki was born in Lublin, Wisconsin, in 1925. She first voted in the 1948 presidential election and has voted ever since. She’s an independent who has voted for John F. Kennedy but also Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. But after Wisconsin passed its strict voter-ID law in 2011, Krucki lost her right to vote. She made three trips to the DMV, bringing an Illinois photo ID, proof of residence in Wisconsin, a birth certificate and her marriage certificate but could not get a Wisconsin photo ID for voting.
WE all live in our bubbles and think our experience is THE definitive experience, unable to imagine that what is true for us isn't true for others.
The problem is not having picture ID ---- the problem is the rules, technicalities being introduced to make it very difficult for people to get that voter ID. It's mainly older, lower income folks that are impacted.
They don't have the energy, resources etc...to spend fighting to get their ID.
I suspect over time this problem will be lessened given that there will be fewer and fewer persons that will have problems with birth certificates from home births, misspelling on documents, etc.
But there is a concern/problem.
And yes if the states that introduce stricter ID requirements also provided much needed resources to help those that might struggle to meet the requirements -- all this voter id obstacle could be minimized.
Instead it seems in some states, the officials dig in their heels and don't want to help.
I struggle to believe that this old lady is part of the deep state conspiracy to oust Republicans in Wisconsin -- lol.
I don't vote, so I couldn't care less about voting ID laws. And black people who do vote are lost. I think that's the problem with black people. Always thinking a vote is going to change our situation. When it takes enterprise and ingenuity to rise above your circumstances. The government will do noting to help you, and has done nothing but harmed us as a people.
https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...-voter-id-law/ Christine Krucki was born in Lublin, Wisconsin, in 1925. She first voted in the 1948 presidential election and has voted ever since. She’s an independent who has voted for John F. Kennedy but also Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. But after Wisconsin passed its strict voter-ID law in 2011, Krucki lost her right to vote. She made three trips to the DMV, bringing an Illinois photo ID, proof of residence in Wisconsin, a birth certificate and her marriage certificate but could not get a Wisconsin photo ID for voting.
WE all live in our bubbles and think our experience is THE definitive experience, unable to imagine that what is true for us isn't true for others.
The problem is not having picture ID ---- the problem is the rules, technicalities being introduced to make it very difficult for people to get that voter ID. It's mainly older, lower income folks that are impacted.
They don't have the energy, resources etc...to spend fighting to get their ID.
I suspect over time this problem will be lessened given that there will be fewer and fewer persons that will have problems with birth certificates from home births, misspelling on documents, etc.
But there is a concern/problem.
And yes if the states that introduce stricter ID requirements also provided much needed resources to help those that might struggle to meet the requirements -- all this voter id obstacle could be minimized.
Instead it seems in some states, the officials dig in their heels and don't want to help.
I struggle to believe that this old lady is part of the deep state conspiracy to oust Republicans in Wisconsin -- lol.
Would you argue the same for the gun control laws? If not, you are a hypocrite.
The issue for many older black folk is the Real ID part. My dad had to update his license a year ago and it took weeks to do so, why? Because he had to show his birth certificate to update his license.
My dad is a 70 y/o guy who served in the military for 27 years and moved all over the place. There was no way we were finding that birth certificate. So we had to order a new one, which was easier because they took another form of ID and is SS card, pay for that, wait for it to arrive.
Then we could update his license which also had a fee. So two payments and weeks later he finally would have able to update his voter registration if he needed to. In essence he would have needed a 2 month lead to get this done if I was not helping. I think most people believe this is a 1 day process.
What I saying is many older black folk do not even know where their birth certificate is. And if it is an original document then good luck with the state accepting it. Some of those documents, and I am talking real documents, look fake as heck. Just a few lines and a signature on regular paper is all down black folk were given at birth.
White folk forget old Black people were not born in white hospitals with good official documentation given at birth. Heck most were born at home and never really had an “official” birth certificate.
This is one of those topics that I think could get sorted out quickly if we had a functioning political system. Solving this should not require this much argument about ID.
Yes!!!! This.
My mom's house burned down when she was like 8 and all the family documents burned with it. She was born at home, the hospital is long gone. I have no idea what kind of birth records she has.
And I think the other thing to think about, for example in Georgia, where they closed the DMVs in majority Black counties (and the polling places) - I have older relatives in the South who don't drive. How on earth are you supposed to go 60 miles to the DMV when your local one was closed down if you can't drive?
The closest one to the town my dad grew up in is like 35 miles away - a 60 minute drive. When my grandad was alive, he used to run a caravan to cart people to town to go to Walmart (same place where DMV was), but when he was too old to do this, there was no one running that anymore. All the young people moved away and everyone still around was his age.
My parents are in their 70s, they still have a license and so on, so they are fine. But they are not necessarily the norm (and we live in California).
I go to vote, they ask me name and my address and that is enough. I've been at the same polling place for over a decade, so it is no issue, they recognize me. I think when I registered I needed to show some mail or something. I no longer remember. There are plenty of ways to validate someone's voting status and address that are not controlled by the DMV. If voting scammers were organized enough to hoard mail for months and get the voters guide for someone else, we have other problems to deal with.
Simply, it's a poll tax. If ID is required, it must be provided for free. To anyone, including homeless.
Required proof of ID can't be held to be a tax when its solution is tax money.
Ergo, it is not a "poll tax".
ID a basic responsibility of all voters to be able to prove who they are toward securing our Democracy against fraud and being allowed to vote.
Call it Civic Responsibility that is well in-line with the voting Civic Responsibility. If you feel compelled to fulfill the second responsibility, you'll fulfill the first and get ID. In this nation, we have to do things for ourselves and our communities.
The issue for many older black folk is the Real ID part. My dad had to update his license a year ago and it took weeks to do so, why? Because he had to show his birth certificate to update his license.
My dad is a 70 y/o guy who served in the military for 27 years and moved all over the place. There was no way we were finding that birth certificate. So we had to order a new one, which was easier because they took another form of ID and is SS card, pay for that, wait for it to arrive.
Then we could update his license which also had a fee. So two payments and weeks later he finally would have able to update his voter registration if he needed to. In essence he would have needed a 2 month lead to get this done if I was not helping. I think most people believe this is a 1 day process.
What I saying is many older black folk do not even know where their birth certificate is. And if it is an original document then good luck with the state accepting it. Some of those documents, and I am talking real documents, look fake as heck. Just a few lines and a signature on regular paper is all down black folk were given at birth.
White folk forget old Black people were not born in white hospitals with good official documentation given at birth. Heck most were born at home and never really had an “official” birth certificate.
This is one of those topics that I think could get sorted out quickly if we had a functioning political system. Solving this should not require this much argument about ID.
Both my parents were born at home (they are white). They would be 99 and 90 years old. A birth certificate is need for many things like a DL, marriage, military, social security. Today replacement can be obtained easily on line. Why is it so much harder for a black person to get these documents than a white one.
I have always believed that the argument against having to have an ID to vote because it overly burdens Blacks is a racist one. You may as well just say that Blacks are too stupid, or inept or incompetent to get an ID card. I liken it to the Democrat cradle to grave social programs which presume that minorities can't make it on their own. The "racism of low expectations" has done a lot to harm Blacks and other minorities, in my opinion.
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