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Old 10-30-2020, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I mean many people take it off touch their mask, dont put it on right and get annoyed of wearing it. Theres no gurantee of not catching it

People at the beach arent wearing a mask, trump aint wearing a mask,

Mask don't work they are dumb. If i wear it its cuz im force to. But try to take off my mask as much as possible. The mask is a stupid idea since the beginning they don't do crap.
The CDC's own guidelines say you need to be within six feet of an infected person for 15 minutes, before you should be tested. So walking past an infected person for a fleeting moment is apparently not of concern anyway. Otherwise the CDC would use the standard of fleeting passage past an infected person means you need to be tested. Also, their guidelines do not say "oh, but if you are wearing a homemade cloth ask or a paper one, you are golden, and no need to be tested."

 
Old 10-30-2020, 10:54 AM
 
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How many people on this thread wear their mask to the convenience store to buy cigarettes? Talk about poor risk assessment personified.
 
Old 10-30-2020, 10:58 AM
 
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How many people on this thread wear their mask to the convenience store to buy cigarettes? Talk about poor risk assessment personified.
The same number of people who wear them to the grocery stores to buy cookies and ice cream, or to the pizza place or fast food place? Most smokers wear seatbelts and lock their doors too, what’s your point?
 
Old 10-30-2020, 11:19 AM
 
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The same number of people who wear them to the grocery stores to buy cookies and ice cream, or to the pizza place or fast food place? Most smokers wear seatbelts and lock their doors too, what’s your point?
First of all the seatbelt thing is a false equivocation.


Second, my point is that there is significant risk to smoking, but 0 risk to not wearing a mask. Therefore if this was really about risk, and if this was really about health, the individual would start by minimizing their large risks and not their nonexistent risks.


But of course we know that this isn't about risk or health, it's about compliance and control.
 
Old 10-30-2020, 12:44 PM
 
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First of all the seatbelt thing is a false equivocation.


Second, my point is that there is significant risk to smoking, but 0 risk to not wearing a mask. Therefore if this was really about risk, and if this was really about health, the individual would start by minimizing their large risks and not their nonexistent risks.


But of course we know that this isn't about risk or health, it's about compliance and control.
That isn’t true at all. People don’t weigh what would be “far off” risk the same as immediate risk. It’s like saying it’s silly for someone who smokes to look before they cross the street. The cancer risk, again, seems far off, not immediate, and people perceive that kind of risk differently.
 
Old 10-30-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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That isn’t true at all. People don’t weigh what would be “far off” risk the same as immediate risk. It’s like saying it’s silly for someone who smokes to look before they cross the street. The cancer risk, again, seems far off, not immediate, and people perceive that kind of risk differently.
Except that is another false equivocation. Not looking before crossing the street presents a significant risk, while not wearing a mask presents no risk.


And I would say that the risk to smoking cigarettes presents a 'risk' (if you can call it that) that is absolute as far as immediate results. It is a guarantee, for example, that buying cigarettes will cost money, that is self evident fact. It also effects one's cardiovascular health immediately. And the immediate effects do not abrogate the potential long term effects which may or not happen.
 
Old 10-30-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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No...Its all about control.... Seeing if they can get people to follow stupid guidelines!!

The cattle must be herded and confined. It's for their own good. They are too stupid to know how to obey. They must be held under the boot of the masters.
 
Old 10-30-2020, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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12 graphs tell it all, how masks are working to reduce/prevent COVID 19 from spreading: https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/29...to-stop-covid/ Come on, check it out, don't be afraid to know the truth!

And, in reality, it looks like maybe masks will make one fell better psychologically, but not in reality:

https://www.aier.org/article/the-ske...-mask-mandate/

?Yet as we are now seeing in Europe and parts of the United States though, the fall 2020 case surge came many months after the widespread adoption of masks in these regions. Masks are not the next big policy step to take, but rather one that most of the afflicted regions have already taken. They simply weren’t the universal panacea that our media and parts of the epidemiology profession promised."

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Old 10-30-2020, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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How many people on this thread wear their mask to the convenience store to buy cigarettes? Talk about poor risk assessment personified.
I wear it every time I enter a store, even the gas station. Not because i think it really makes any difference, but out of respect for others who are deathly afraid
 
Old 10-30-2020, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Typical communist projection; it was Dems Cuomo and Whitmer KILLING PEOPLE!!!!
IL, CA, MI, NJ, NY and PA governors all forced nursing homes to take COVID infected people, and tens of thousands died because of it. Will their voters ever hold them accountable? Or is their irrational hate for Trump that ingrained?
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