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Old 08-01-2020, 02:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by thriftylefty View Post
Its the not knowing that is the problem with being black. Like how would you know if a person is anti-Semitic or if they just don't get along with you? Which side is safer to er on. With being black it is better to er on the side of racism because you can waste valuable time trying to prove to someone that you are the right choice or qualified when you never had a chance anyway.
Wow! There....right there! THAT is the exaggeration of racism, and blaming everything on racism. You didn’t get the job? You’ll “err” on the side of assuming the hiring manager was a racist. That way, you’re convincing yourself that there is more racism than there really is, and don’t have to own up to the fact that maybe you just didn’t impress the interviewer. It’s so much easier to think, “he didn’t hire me because he’s racist.” But that type of thinking hurts YOU. You don’t analyze and correct your weaknesses since, after all, can’t fight these racist employers,

 
Old 08-01-2020, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Old Dominion
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"Part of the reason why the police have had so many difficult encounters with black people is because the crime rate in black areas is much higher. For example: If the police want to arrest a driver in a black neighborhood, they must be prepared for the possibility that the driver might have a gun on him."

If the above isn't the problem of prejudice, right in a nutshell, I don't know what is!

Once again, conservatives are listening to an economist (like they do Thomas Sowell), because this professor tell that political slant what they want to hear!
Tell us about how you don't pre judge people? Come on, I want to hear it. Past experiences don't shape your current thoughts and feelings about things? Are you a robot? We can only hope that we won't let our prejudices get the best of us, but we all have them.

If you were a cop and pulled someone over in a neighborhood with a lot of gun violence, you wouldn't have a heightened sense of awareness?
 
Old 08-01-2020, 02:08 PM
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So he's not the right type of black?

The problem with some of you liberals is you don't know history and you scoff at scholars - people much smarter than they'll ever be.

Nothing he wrote is incorrect - whether you like the facts or not.
But you don't accept the research from all the scholarship from liberal social scientist going back to at least the 1950's which disprove your position , right?
 
Old 08-01-2020, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Originally Posted by thriftylefty View Post
Its the not knowing that is the problem with being black. Like how would you know if a person is anti-Semitic or if they just don't get along with you? Which side is safer to er on. With being black it is better to er on the side of racism because you can waste valuable time trying to prove to someone that you are the right choice or qualified when you never had a chance anyway
You can tell who the black posters are. They provide history and context. The white posters who think they're taking up for black people just provide nonsense.

Stop - the black dude has this. I don't agree with some of what Eddie is posting, but he doesn't need your help.
 
Old 08-01-2020, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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FHA loans were specifically created to subsidize the expansion of Americans to newly created suburbs in the 40-60s, with explicit terms that the subdevelopments and buyers could not sell or rent to AAs. Are you telling me that's not systemic racism?

That expansion is the source of most of the net worth/housing value discrepancy between White and Black household TODAY.



If a white person with a 550 credit score and a black person with an 800 credit score walk in to a bank for a mortgage, which one is going to be more likely to get the loan and get a better rate?

Nobody forced anyone to take out sub prime mortgages.

Not everyone should be a homeowner.

If you have to have special programs just to get the loan, what are you going to do when the house needs a new roof or the water heater blows up?
 
Old 08-01-2020, 02:11 PM
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Wow! There....right there! THAT is the exaggeration of racism, and blaming everything on racism. You didn’t get the job? You’ll “err” on the side of assuming the hiring manager was a racist. That way, you’re convincing yourself that there is more racism than there really is, and don’t have to own up to the fact that maybe you just didn’t impress the interviewer. It’s so much easier to think, “he didn’t hire me because he’s racist.” But that type of thinking hurts YOU. You don’t analyze and correct your weaknesses since, after all, can’t fight these racist employers,
Wrong , If you don't get the job you move on. You don't try to force yourself into a job where you are not wanted. The only way to prove it was racism is to do better somewhere else.
 
Old 08-01-2020, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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If a white person with a 550 credit score and a black person with an 800 credit score walk in to a bank for a mortgage, which one is going to be more likely to get the loan and get a better rate?

Nobody forced anyone to take out sub prime mortgages.

Not everyone should be a homeowner.

If you have to have special programs just to get the loan, what are you going to do when the house needs a new roof or the water heater blows up?
Deal with the facts I just presented. You said systemic racism didn't happen, so deal with the source of the gigantic wealth gap between Black & White HHs before we move in to something else.

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Old 08-01-2020, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Old Dominion
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
If a white person with a 550 credit score and a black person with an 800 credit score walk in to a bank for a mortgage, which one is going to be more likely to get the loan and get a better rate?

Nobody forced anyone to take out sub prime mortgages.

Not everyone should be a homeowner.

If you have to have special programs just to get the loan, what are you going to do when the house needs a new roof or the water heater blows up?
I agree with what you're saying, but Eddie has a point on the wealth disparates that we see today and how they can be traced back to black people being denied government subsidized fha mortgages post WW2. Someone's house is the greatest asset and form of wealth for much of the middle class.

I don't agree with him on the sub prime mortgages that happened back in 2008.
 
Old 08-01-2020, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Originally Posted by MPowering1 View Post
He's prejudiced against his own race? Do tell.

What part of the statement is incorrect?
EVERYTHING is incorrect.

He's condoning racial profiling and prejudice. The notion that when an officer goes into a Black neighborhood, he more than likely has a gun. An officer already has his hand on his gun. A law-abiding, humble person from the neighborhood can now be a target of an officer who already thinks that citizen is a criminal. That means he doesn't trust the community he's working in, or anyone in it! That is the issue!
 
Old 08-01-2020, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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First you mentioned negative outcomes. So I gave you a link about OoW births and how crime is affected 20 years down the road. That's a negative outcome. Please post a reference to your statement that rates decreased as OoW births increased in black families.

Now you want to focus on poverty and education. You need to look at Obama for that. He allowed funding to be cut to HBCUs in 2009. Him and the Democrats did not allow families in DC their choices of schools - but forced them into failing public schools. You can start there. The black president fostered a continuing environment of poverty and education for black folks. It wasn't systemic racism. The job bus tour in the black Canadian tour bus never went to a black community.
First... We can start here: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/o...nt-family.html

If Harvard graduates are your gold standards, here's one whose actual field is researching these very trends.

If you're suspicious of her findings. Look up the increase and spread of OoW births across all class in America, then try to find the corresponding increase in at of these negative outcomes for any of that groups. Spoiler Alert: You won't. As OoW rates increase every negative stat you want to look at holds flat or decreases.

What does Obama failing to adequately address education have to do with the "myth" of systemic racism?
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