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There's a lot of systemic racism in systems set up in the past that have never been fixed which allowed the original outcomes to continue to playout.
The war on drugs was launched bc of systemic racism, and the outcomes have never been fixed and allowed to fester.
The suburban divide and gap in household wealth was created by systemic racism and never fixed, and outcome has been allowed to fester.
The modern racial targeting of subprime mortgages to qualified Black applicants was created by systemic racism and never fixed, and those outcomes are being allowed to fester.
People have been talking about systemic racism and the outcomes it created for decades and a lot of that was never addressed. So if those people are STILL talking about those same outcomes from systemic racism, you can't logically make the case that SR doesn't exist.
Absolute horse crap.
None of those things were "created" and certainly not out of "systemic racism".
Except he never said that. He acknowledged that there is some racism, but certainly not some pervasive “systemic” racism, and that this insistence on blaming every poor outcome on racism is hurting blacks. The very fact that we have blacks on this thread, arguing that the (black) professor is a racist simply for saying that blacks themselves should focus on areas in which they can improve rather than blame everything on racism, is demonstrating the professor’s point.
Its the not knowing that is the problem with being black. Like how would you know if a person is anti-Semitic or if they just don't get along with you? Which side is safer to er on. With being black it is better to er on the side of racism because you can waste valuable time trying to prove to someone that you are the right choice or qualified when you never had a chance anyway
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How about rehashing the stat about out of wedlock birthrates? This is junk science.
Oow does not mean the father isn't in the picture or not cohabitating with the mother.
Then there's the flip side of divorce rates. A child born in marriage then having to split time between parents is effectively the same living arrangement as a child born out of wedlock, yet there's no shaming the White parents got this trend is there?
The stats correlating oow birth with negative outcomes rates DO NOT EXIST. As Black Americans have increased OoW birth rates since the 60s, every conceivable measure of success has shown improvement.
White people have SHOT UP for OoW birthrates for the last 30 years... Where's the correlation in ANY of the stats that he's saying is the real reason behind Black attainment faking behind?
Fact is that anyone bringing up OoW births in relation to Black attainment gap is a *******.
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Regarding the underlined... skip to 1:50 in the video below. A 1995 study is cited.
A study in the latest issue of The Journal of Law and Economics finds a link between out-of-wedlock births and rates of murder and other crimes.
According to the study, in the years from 1965 to 2002, higher rates of out-of-wedlock births in a given year correlate with higher crime rates roughly 20 years later, when members of that birth cohort had become adults. The findings suggest that children born out of wedlock may receive lower educational and other resource investments from their parents, and may therefore be more likely to commit crimes as adults, say the study’s authors, economists Todd D. Kendall, of the consulting firm Compass Lexecon, and Robert Tamura of Clemson University.
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Exactly. That's the type of stat that gets cited when talking about OoW birthrates. And it's junk science. You know why? Bc those rates DECREASED when OoW rates INCREASED IN Black families.
You know what stayed consistent with those stats? POVERTY & EDUCATION ie the thing that Black equality protestors have been advocating to fix for years, but uninformed people have been derailing with the OoW argument.
First you mentioned negative outcomes. So I gave you a link about OoW births and how crime is affected 20 years down the road. That's a negative outcome. Please post a reference to your statement that rates decreased as OoW births increased in black families.
Now you want to focus on poverty and education. You need to look at Obama for that. He allowed funding to be cut to HBCUs in 2009. Him and the Democrats did not allow families in DC their choices of schools - but forced them into failing public schools. You can start there. The black president fostered a continuing environment of poverty and education for black folks. It wasn't systemic racism. The job bus tour in the black Canadian tour bus never went to a black community.
I didn't really read the OP, I just the read article. I read the nuanced points in it, and he highlighted a lot of the stuff we other overlook or is either too taboo to bring up. If you interpreted it in a different way, then so be it.
My OP was simply an introduction to the professor’s article. But we can see what happens when we bring up valid but “taboo” stuff. Out come the personal insults and accusations. And that, interestingly enough, was a big part of the professor’s point: that the left have created a narrative so narrow that anything other than blaming everything 100% on racism - and having to exaggerate it in order to do so - is unacceptable.
It cannot be adjudged as anything but self incriminating or self aggrandizement when these conservative African American scholars sit all alone in their ivory towers or on their academic pedestal declaring that racism doesn't exist.
So he's not the right type of black?
The problem with some of you liberals is you don't know history and you scoff at scholars - people much smarter than they'll ever be.
Nothing he wrote is incorrect - whether you like the facts or not.
"Part of the reason why the police have had so many difficult encounters with black people is because the crime rate in black areas is much higher. For example: If the police want to arrest a driver in a black neighborhood, they must be prepared for the possibility that the driver might have a gun on him."
If the above isn't the problem of prejudice, right in a nutshell, I don't know what is!
Once again, conservatives are listening to an economist (like they do Thomas Sowell), because this professor tell that political slant what they want to hear!
None of those things were "created" and certainly not out of "systemic racism".
FHA loans were specifically created to subsidize the expansion of Americans to newly created suburbs in the 40-60s, with explicit terms that the subdevelopments and buyers could not sell or rent to AAs. Are you telling me that's not systemic racism?
That expansion is the source of most of the net worth/housing value discrepancy between White and Black household TODAY.
"Part of the reason why the police have had so many difficult encounters with black people is because the crime rate in black areas is much higher. For example: If the police want to arrest a driver in a black neighborhood, they must be prepared for the possibility that the driver might have a gun on him."
If the above isn't the problem of prejudice, right in a nutshell, I don't know what is!
Once again, conservatives are listening to an economist (like they do Thomas Sowell), because this professor tell that political slant what they want to hear!
He's prejudiced against his own race? Do tell.
What part of the statement is incorrect?
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