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The great fun of this forum is to debate with white people who are trying to convince black people that black people are not all that experienced when it comes to knowing what racism is.
One experience I had is I was turned down for a position that was listed in the paper of my college town. The white man who got the job was a friend of mine. Not only was he not qualified (he had no degree I had two) but he told me he didn't even apply for the job. He said "I walked into this business and they offered me a job right on the spot."
I have to say he was much better looking than me to them, blond curly locks and blue eyes. But he was a stoner and didn't last long. I just set up shop my self and had more clients than every one who wouldn't hire me. I was a burr in their side for over 20 years. They virtually discontinued offering the service that I now provided on my own.
Sometimes there are no subtleties. On at least three occasions I have been told nicely.. but you'er black and that may present problems. No I didn't call all Sharpton or Jesse Jackson I moved on and better without them. And rubbed it in their face whenever I could.
I struggle with the racism thing too. I’m white and married to a Latina, that’s been a big education. I’m probably still more aloof than I should be, but it is good to be forced to think about how others perceive things.
I do like you setting up shop and throwing success in folks’ faces in a human way. I love a good revenge tale. Good for you!
I always thought some form of restitution paid out to people who were affected by redlining, denial of VA benefits, etc., would be a good place to start. I think that creating an incentive structure for behavior that is shown to raise people out of poverty would be a good start. You can have this means tested or universal, create a government bond program or something once a child is born, they would eligible to get the money by say 21, if they have met the requirements. Graduating high school, no children out of wedlock, and enrolled in college, jobs program, or national service.
We can start to reform certain institutions in our society, but a huge goal should be to lift all boats and put all people in a position to get to high places within these institutions. As another poster said on here, money is a great insulator and the lifting out of poverty will be a great step forward.
And yet, there is resistance to even some of these very simple proposals you've mentioned.
I struggle with the racism thing too. I’m white and married to a Latina, that’s been a big education. I’m probably still more aloof than I should be, but it is good to be forced to think about how others perceive things.
I do like you setting up shop and throwing success in folks’ faces in a human way. I love a good revenge tale. Good for you!
When I left home for college I went from an all Black and Hispanic world to an all white world. I was very young and It was learn as you go.
My children did the opposite and they are doing much better financially than I was at their age.
The great fun of this forum is to debate with white people who are trying to convince black people that black people are not all that experienced when it comes to knowing what racism is.
Yet you have no proof of this
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Originally Posted by thriftylefty
One experience I had is I was turned down for a position that was listed in the paper of my college town. The white man who got the job was a friend of mine. Not only was he not qualified (he had no degree I had two) but he told me he didn't even apply for the job. He said "I walked into this business and they offered me a job right on the spot."
Not true. This isn't how it goes. Granted you could have been applying for a job in the Klan. Then your little story would have merit.
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Originally Posted by thriftylefty
I have to say he was much better looking than me to them, blond curly locks and blue eyes. But he was a stoner and didn't last long. I just set up shop my self and had more clients than every one who wouldn't hire me. I was a burr in their side for over 20 years. They virtually discontinued offering the service that I now provided on my own.
hahahaha Yea that's what happened
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Originally Posted by thriftylefty
Sometimes there are no subtleties. On at least three occasions I have been told nicely.. but you'er black and that may present problems. No I didn't call Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson I moved on and did much better without them. And rubbed it in their face whenever I could.
^^ this is why people get frustrated enough to overlook BLM’s flaws and carry the torch for them.
Agree or don’t, it’s still worth listening to and contemplating things that your fellow Americans are saying. Maybe there’s some crap there, maybe not, but we wouldn’t be here if there were zero merit to any of this.
Well then of all the things she's had to put up with, I'd think a conversation wouldn't fall on her list of things she felt she had to endure.
Go back and look at the content of that conversation. I'd have steam coming out of my ears while trying to be as calm while hearing what her colleagues were saying.
There's nothing groundbreaking or outrageous here.
In a nutshell, racism exists but black people can surmount it on their own. Basically keep doing what black folk have been doing since the dawn of time, overcome.
My personal approach is to use money as the great insulator. Nothing shuts a racist down faster than activating their inferiority complex.
Racism isn't a factor when it comes to being successful. Finish high school, work a fulltime job and wait until you are 21 or older to get married and have kids and you'll have a 75% chance of being middle class or higher and only a 2% chance of being permanently poor.
The single biggest factor on whether someone will succeed in life is growing up in a stable home environment.
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