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Instead of tampering and going WOKE with a icon like James Bond character, why not write a new script for a new movie with a new franchise for a super woman type hero?
Worked well with Lara Croft right?
Other than the fact that every Tomb Raider movie sucked, that’s a very good point.
Bunch of idiocy then will blame it on haters when it fails. Why not just create a female black 00 agent in the World of Bond. Make her kick ass first appearing in a Bond film and than start her own series? that might work out fine and if its a good character will get some fans. Fans, including men, have proven they love well written kick butt women. Anyone going to say Wonder Women was not a success, please. This seems nothing but a way to insult fans as "unawoke" which ironically points out that it seems they themselves really don't think a strong woman character could do it on her own(why she needs to ride Bonds coattails). How anti-feminists is that..
The problem is Hollywood's lack of originality (I include the British film industry).
Milking a franchise to pander to new audiences is beside the points. If you want an African American lead write up a new character and world, turn it into a successful franchise.
Don't rest on laurels of the past, elsewise you say minorities can only be successful off the backs of a white male dominated series.
Create new content please, stop rehashing old stuff.
Why not try looking at this from a different perspective.
Lets say your favorite show growing up was the Cosby Show, which portrayed a middle class black family in a very positive light, living the American dream.
But then someone decided to remake the series, but with a white lesbian instead. Not only does the left love to scream nonsense like "cultural appropriation" (which I have not yet heard about a potential black woman playing a British male role), but you personally might not like how Mr. Cosby (a beloved figure) is no longer a black male MD with a family.
The same would be true of fans of "Wonder Woman", if she was changed into a black male transsexual like RuPaul.
So if the Hollywood leftists want to make a series staring RuPaul, why not call it "Wonder Tranny" and see how will it will fly on it's own. That, rather than ruining an iconic female figure many fans love.
It is no different when it comes to an iconic masculine figure like 007 for most people. All the guys fantasized about living the lifestyle of being an international hero who vanquishes the bad guy, yet who is sophisticated, and gets to have lustful sex with a multitude of incredible beautiful women as part of his job.
So why ruin that iconic figure and likely destroy the franchise?
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I guess I know why.
Think what such *iconic figure* as James Bond represents from early days on, what's the essence of this particular character.
The *cool and invincible* white male of Northern descent, the heart-breaker who always wins his games.
SOME find it intolerable to put up with it forever, you can only guess why)))
As in " if you can't win it, then destroy it"
Dr. Huxtable on another hand doesn't have that power of sexual appeal, he is not a sexual symbol in order to be targeted by some "white lesbian."
Why not indeed? (I take it you mean Red Grant; if another, please say the movie; I stopped watching the Franchise at Casino Royale for reasons previously listed)
But movies show us otherwise. Anya was the closest but eventually, she decided her dead lover was not worthy of revenge and she ended up in bed with 007.
In all the decades of Bond, does anyone ever, in the end, win other than he?
As far as respect for the enemy, that is another interesting item about the movies much of the time. There are more times when the villain will refer to him as Mr. Bond (mostly) or Bond (rarely) or by number and less times when he will drop the title and just refer to them by last name. It seems to be part of his character to deny the respect that so many offer him.
Now, of course, part of the lack of respect is as 007 put it in The Man With the Golden Gun....."When I kill, it is on the explicit orders of my government and those I kill are killers themselves.". He has no reason to respect them.....and rightfully so.
Bond as a politically correct figure is not Bond.
I'm not talking about Bond so much as female action stars.
I don't see why the Bond franchise can't include a recurring female action star. In fact, I think i could be a lot of fun. Whether she has a 'license to kill' or not.
The problem is Hollywood's lack of originality (I include the British film industry).
Milking a franchise to pander to new audiences is beside the points. If you want an African American lead write up a new character and world, turn it into a successful franchise.
Don't rest on laurels of the past, elsewise you say minorities can only be successful off the backs of a white male dominated series.
Create new content please, stop rehashing old stuff.
Think what such *iconic figure* as James Bond represents from early days on, what's the essence of this particular character.
The *cool and invincible* white male of Northern descent, the heart-breaker who always wins his games.
SOME find it intolerable to put up with it forever, you can only guess why)))
As in " if you can't win it, then destroy it"
Dr. Huxtable on another hand doesn't have that power of sexual appeal, he is not a sexual symbol in order to be targeted by some "white lesbian."
It's all so oh, so Freudian after all...
I take it you mean by "if you can't win it, then destroy it" as in if you can't do better than the story, destroy it......or as so many did during the 60s, spoof it. On that related note, I get a kick out of "The Spook Who Sat By The Door".
Such an incredible play on words.......and I don't think anyone would dare today to try it.
But, in a similar note, it's like SHIELD's Femme Force of the early 70s. Perhaps more successful, certainly was an inspiration to me as a child, but has long since been forgotten, even in the modern movies. Why make a task force when Black Widow can do it just the same? https://comicvine.gamespot.com/femme-force/4060-56337/
BUT back to the original statement, I had to wonder for a moment to what the phrase was meant to mean for we all know ........
James Bond: Construction isn't exactly my speciality. M: Quite the opposite, in fact.(from IMDB, from TWINE)
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........I'm not talking about Bond so much as female action stars.
I don't see why the Bond franchise can't include a recurring female action star. In fact, I think i could be a lot of fun. Whether she has a 'license to kill' or not.
Primarily because it is Bond. Bond is #1 (we don't even have much of Felix Leiter or Jack Wade), Bond is a womanizer, Bond gets the beautiful girls always, Bond is a rooster in the hen house with tennis shoes........and once Bond gets the girl, she is no longer desirable for him.
Book wise, there is no room for action females. "Women were for entertainment." (Casino Royale).
Early on, they tried that a little with Martine Beswick https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000936/?ref_=tt_cl_t8 in a way, but there are several pitfalls to that across the board. First of all, as Roger Moore noted in his tenure, "You get older and the starlets get younger.". If the same person is playing the part, movie after movie, that is going to happen. Now, they could say for another actress, she has had plastic surgery (they were thinking of doing that with Lazenby's movie), that is acceptable.......but if she has it, why not Bond? The problem is that if Bond has had it, then there is no continuity in who is playing the role.
Another problem is for the actress who how many want to be show as the damsel in distress, rescued movie after movie, and be type casted into that role. That's one of the reasons why Mary Tamm left Dr. Who after one season. She wanted an intelligent role but she ended up constantly needing to be rescued.
Could a female action spy be done? Sure, that's Purdey or Peel.......but Steed is no James Bond. That's The Bionic Woman but she was the star, not playing second fiddle to someone else. That's Nikita in her various lights.......and about all of those lights show that a woman on the side of good doesn't have the emotional stability to be in this line of work.
It seems to work for men, however. I guess we expect that from men across all the boards, such as men are not as susceptible to being the office wall flower as women are. That is, "you are now too old, you are not pretty enough to be in the office. Go home, get married, raise a family." The one Bond who was slightly human, who rather hated the job, was Timothy Dalton and to audiences, was not that successful of a Bond.
Finally, if the movie is going the direction some say it is, the boy 007 is in retirement, the girl has the 007 number, something goes down and the boy has to be recalled from retirement.....it sounds like, slightly, Never Say Never Again. It sounds like A LOT Casino Royale 1967 where Sir James Bond, recalled from retirement, comments, "Look, I don't like that guy you gave my number to. He makes the phrase "secret agent" synonimous with "sex maniac"."
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Speaking of Felix Leiter, remember that he was originally a white character in the older films but in the Daniel Craig films they made him black? Maybe for diversity purposes?
Speaking of Felix Leiter, remember that he was originally a white character in the older films but in the Daniel Craig films they made him black? Maybe for diversity purposes?
Regardless, Jeffrey Wright has been an awesome Felix Leiter. He is my favourite one of them all.
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