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Old 05-24-2021, 11:44 AM
 
Location: NC
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How do you, or anyone else know who is committing the crimes, not just who's getting charged for them. Maybe I'm just missing it?
Nobody? Come on, you all are making the case. Just tell us how you get your numbers? Where are the stats on unreported crimes, on crimes that don't charged, etc.?
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Old 05-24-2021, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Nobody? Come on, you all are making the case. Just tell us how you get your numbers? Where are the stats on unreported crimes, on crimes that don't charged, etc.?
I gave you the data link to FBI information.

If you want to parse out "Oh, well Blacks are 70% of the drug arrests when we all know that whites do just as many drugs" then go for it.

I don't think whites aren't getting arrested for armed robbery as often as Blacks because, hey, they're white!
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Old 05-24-2021, 01:59 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Liberals are the easiest to be manipulated by media. Fact.
Easiest to be manipulated by their tribe
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Old 05-24-2021, 02:49 PM
 
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1. How would ANYONE know that 50% of crimes are committed by black people. All we know is that 50% of the arrests (if that number is even vetted and true) are black men. We know for a FACT that black and white men use Weed at similar rates, but blacks are arrested at a higher rate. We know that also of traffic stops. I'd be interested to know the source of your data. How we could know who is committing crimes that are not documented in any way.
The left refuses to have an honest conversation. The left is constantly lying or showing a failure to understand simple statistics.

Black people commit a majority of the violent crime in this country as a fact. Therefore groups getting stopped more by police because they commit more violent crime will also get picked up on other things like drug use when they search the body and car at arrest. It is extremely dishonest to pretend this isn't true.

Police are more active in black majority neighborhoods due to facts of crimes. Detroit and Flint combined have 9% of Michigan's population but between 50 to 65% of murders in the state in a typical year. Therefore they will get more policing to save lives there. Those two cities are majority black and get more policing. The more policing there isn't racist, it is based in statistics and it saves lives.

Asians commit less crimes than whites and resist arrest less too. This explains why Asians are statistically less likely to be shot than whites. The gap between Asian-white shootings is bigger than the gap between whites-blacks. Why? Because cops are racist in favor of Asians or because they as a group have better choices than whites on average?
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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While there have been a number of incidents in which police almost certainly if not certainly used excessive force, by and large, Asians in this country do not complain of police brutality; Asians don't claim they're being hunted down by police.

FBI statistics on crime, which are published every year in autumn and which include dozens of spreadsheets with very granular data about crime broken down by locale, race, weapons used, gender, age, state, urban vs. rural, and other categories, show that Asians commit crimes far less than whites, blacks, and Hispanics.

Does this pattern - the fact that law enforcement officers are highly unlikely to have dangerous encounters with Asians who are armed and dangerous - have no relevance in the extremely rare cases of police shooting Asians dead?

If there IS relevance, what is that relevance, exactly?

And does that relevance carry over into how police react to other ethnic groups? If it does, how?

Or are police officers of all races just incorrigible bigots who shoot blacks and Hispanics for fun?
Asians commit low rates of crime because they have high rates of 2 parent families.
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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In February 2021, the House again passed the police reform bill with zero Republican votes. Now with the Senate, they still need 10 Republican votes to pass.
sorry, meant to respond to this as well. It's all been partisan politics.

What Tim Scott did is propose a *possibly* partisan bill, that the good Dems of the Senate wouldn't even allow discussion/vote of. I guess it's "possibly partisan" because it still favors cops (who all used to be big Dems, but I digress).

What the Dem leadership of House has done is go right back to their wishes last June, and thrown it all into a bill and pushed it through the House on a straight party-line vote.

There is a difference between reforming "qualified immunity" and removing it. The Dems have only allowed for removal, yes? The Dems also want an outright ban on the use of any chokehold, yes?
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Old 05-24-2021, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The point here is that Americans have been misinformed, and wildly overestimate the problem of police killing unarmed blacks. Fake news drove the BLM riots.
Nope. The "BLM Riots" had very little to do with "police killings". They were simply an excuse for vicious criminals to riot, loot and burn.
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Old 05-24-2021, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Asians commit low rates of crime because they have high rates of 2 parent families.
Also because committing crimes by Asians is culturally frowned upon. Crimes among blacks is glorified.
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Old 05-24-2021, 05:15 PM
 
Location: *
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sorry, meant to respond to this as well. It's all been partisan politics.

What Tim Scott did is propose a *possibly* partisan bill, that the good Dems of the Senate wouldn't even allow discussion/vote of. I guess it's "possibly partisan" because it still favors cops (who all used to be big Dems, but I digress).

What the Dem leadership of House has done is go right back to their wishes last June, and thrown it all into a bill and pushed it through the House on a straight party-line vote.

There is a difference between reforming "qualified immunity" and removing it. The Dems have only allowed for removal, yes? The Dems also want an outright ban on the use of any chokehold, yes?
I think this is a pretty fair summary/analysis:

Sen. Tim Scott says Congress is close to a police reform deal

Scott believes his compromise on qualified immunity will get police reform over the Senate finish line.

https://www.vox.com/2021/5/2/2241615...-reform-senate

Hopefully, pragmatic functional reform will move forward soon.
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Old 05-24-2021, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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I think this is a pretty fair summary/analysis:

Sen. Tim Scott says Congress is close to a police reform deal

Scott believes his compromise on qualified immunity will get police reform over the Senate finish line.

https://www.vox.com/2021/5/2/2241615...-reform-senate

Hopefully, pragmatic functional reform will move forward soon.
we can all hope!

I guess the media will portray Republicans in a non-demonic light if they'll just vote for this.
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