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Old 04-03-2021, 02:53 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by k350 View Post
You forget Floyd was also high on drugs and acting as such? The store employee reported it was a fake bill, and Floyd refused to return the cigarettes. Floyd was in a car when the cop got there.

Instead of asking why the cop did this or that, how about ask why Floyd did what he did?
The employee reported that it may be fake not that it was.

 
Old 04-03-2021, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Some of you are predicting massive riots and looting if the verdict doesn't go a certain way. I certainly hope that doesn't happen.

What I find so frustrating is those whom are on the side of wanting to see Derek Chauvin guilty aren't even willing to listen to both sides of this case. It seems fair to say wait until the defense brings in a toxologist who talks about the combination of drugs in Floyd's body and his medical conditions at the time. That had to of been a huge part of why George Floyd not being able to breathe, because he said so several times sitting in a squad car.
 
Old 04-03-2021, 03:34 PM
 
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Another thing , it was wrong of that store manager to send that young boy after big George ,the boy knew George was high , kid could have been stabbed , manager should have gone himself ...
 
Old 04-03-2021, 03:37 PM
 
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You are changing the narrative. It isn't over $20 which is a big deal to Cup Foods who also has to deal with shoplifting just to eke out a living. It was also about passing counterfeit money which is a serious federal crime. Floyd didn't print the money himself. He could be part of an outfit distributing millions around the country.
It's a misdemeanor IF the person is found to have knowingly passed a counterfeit bill. Which would require a hearing.

It's a federal if the person , printed it, and had the printing press and a stack of counterfeits down his pants. See the difference.

So yes it was over an alledged bill.

And to my recollection- a person sitting in a parked car inebriated or not, is not technically driving under the influence..
If the car is outside the 'parked ' position, then maybe the police can cite the operator of the car.

The officers were already making presumption prior to engaging in conversation with Floyd. They already marked him as ' trouble'. Their entire approach was brash and intimidating.

The officers with Floyd could have just as easily said : sir, can we speak with you about a transaction from over at cup foods? Thereby giving him a chance to discuss this mishap. Instead they approach him as if he murdered their grandma and slapped their twin babies. Cuz we all know cops love their grandmas and babies

It's also in the police manual how to approach and de-escalate . They blew it .
 
Old 04-03-2021, 03:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Donna-501 View Post
The employee reported that it may be fake not that it was.
Nope, read the 911 transcripts: https://www.fox9.com/news/911-caller...e-floyds-death

"Um someone comes our store and give us fake
bills and we realize it before he left the store"
 
Old 04-03-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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Empathy with others suffering your health condition is not a bad thing. The world out there is a bad place for people like Floyd and for cops who have to deal with him. What happened to Floyd was unfortunate. Don't pin it all on cops. Doing so doesn't make you a good person.
As an adult we are each culpable for our actions. Uniform is no exception. I appreciate your opinion of what you deem makes a 'good'' person. I'm not good or bad. I'm a person that can access a situation, form a logical conclusion and accept that the excessive actions by this officer cost a life. The flippant use of 'unfortunate' to describe this death says more then you know. Dismissive. Devaluing.
 
Old 04-03-2021, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Isn’t DUI a crime? He was behind the wheel of a car.

The blood tests indicate a criminal level of drugs in his system. Anyone I know arrested for suspicion of DUI is cuffed.
searching for a charge after the man is dead. He was NOT shown to be under the influence. It was murder over $20
 
Old 04-03-2021, 04:07 PM
 
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It's a misdemeanor IF the person is found to have knowingly passed a counterfeit bill. Which would require a hearing.

It's a federal if the person , printed it, and had the printing press and a stack of counterfeits down his pants. See the difference.

So yes it was over an alledged bill.

And to my recollection- a person sitting in a parked car inebriated or not, is not technically driving under the influence..
If the car is outside the 'parked ' position, then maybe the police can cite the operator of the car.

The officers were already making presumption prior to engaging in conversation with Floyd. They already marked him as ' trouble'. Their entire approach was brash and intimidating.

The officers with Floyd could have just as easily said : sir, can we speak with you about a transaction from over at cup foods? Thereby giving him a chance to discuss this mishap. Instead they approach him as if he murdered their grandma and slapped their twin babies. Cuz we all know cops love their grandmas and babies

It's also in the police manual how to approach and de-escalate . They blew it .
What got the police called was the fake bill, what got it escalated was in part Floyd being high as a kite, which was confirmed.

And whether or not a DUI depends on the state. Some states the answer is "yes", it is a DUI even if the car is in park and the person is sitting in the driver's seat. A quick look at MN laws, it shows the person msut be in "physical control", and there were plenty of cases found online that being in a parked car drunk is "in control" of the car, upheld by the MN supreme court.

The officers tried to be nice initially, you can see this for yourself, but Floyd was high as a kite. While this does not alleviate the cop, I do not see why Floyd should be alleviated of any responsibility as well, considered it was his crime and his illegal drug use that started the whole thing.

While the cop could have done this and that, so could have Floyd.
 
Old 04-03-2021, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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An entire week and no one has mentioned overdose
 
Old 04-03-2021, 04:14 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by Nov3 View Post
It's a misdemeanor IF the person is found to have knowingly passed a counterfeit bill. Which would require a hearing.

It's a federal if the person , printed it, and had the printing press and a stack of counterfeits down his pants. See the difference.

So yes it was over an alledged bill.

And to my recollection- a person sitting in a parked car inebriated or not, is not technically driving under the influence..
If the car is outside the 'parked ' position, then maybe the police can cite the operator of the car.

The officers were already making presumption prior to engaging in conversation with Floyd. They already marked him as ' trouble'. Their entire approach was brash and intimidating.

The officers with Floyd could have just as easily said : sir, can we speak with you about a transaction from over at cup foods? Thereby giving him a chance to discuss this mishap. Instead they approach him as if he murdered their grandma and slapped their twin babies. Cuz we all know cops love their grandmas and babies

It's also in the police manual how to approach and de-escalate . They blew it .
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