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Answer this one: He was in the back of the patrol car saying, "I can't breathe" when nobody was touching him (at that point) When you can't breathe, you can't speak!!! Example: I was at work and started choking on a piece of meat. I could not tell my lunch partner that meat was stuck in my throat because I had no air to make sounds!! I motioned with my hand to my throat, he jumped up and performed the Heimlich Manuver. Popping the meat out! After that was clear in my throat I could speak again, albeit raspy for a bit.Floyd was panicking and saying he could not breathe numerous times before they ever restrained him on the ground. He was under the influence and was not cooperating with their commands. He was also claustrophobic.
So the many, many times he said, "I cant breathe" he actually could breathe because he could make air sounds which make speech. Did the officer hold his neck down too long? Yes. He could have positioned him in another way, like sit on the sidewalk. There were enough officers to move him from the sidewalk to a standing or sitting position. I think the officer holding him down made him panic. He asked, "are you going to kill me?" that comes from his parental training that cops are bad. He was trained to fear cops. :O
If your trachea is being crushed you won’t be able to breathe or talk because air cannot be exchanged through the windpipe. If you have some other condition like a heart attack you feel like you can’t breathe but you can still talk and move air. I think Floyd felt like he couldn’t breathe because he had COVID and drugs that prevented his blood from picking up the oxygen from his lungs. So, he felt like he was choking even though he could still talk and move air. It looked like Chauvin was choking him but that wasn’t actually the case.
OK I've looked at all sides of this pretty hard and I've come to give my opinion. He committed manslaughter under MN law and should receive an appropriate sentence. This wasn't murder, but this wasn't justified force either.
OK I've looked at all sides of this pretty hard and I've come to give my opinion. He committed manslaughter under MN law and should receive an appropriate sentence. This wasn't murder, but this wasn't justified force either.
2nd degree murder is what you mean. But the feds will bring the bigger charges.
OK I've looked at all sides of this pretty hard and I've come to give my opinion. He committed manslaughter under MN law and should receive an appropriate sentence. This wasn't murder, but this wasn't justified force either.
Agreed. The 2nd Degree Manslaughter is the one I would be betting on. 4 year sentence.
So Derek Chauvin is found guilty on the higher 2nd Degree murder charge in this case. What happens when the feds charge him with the higher 1st degree federal murder charge? Where does that trial happen, and what do you think the outcome will be? Keep in mind that fed charges result in 99% conviction.
A conviction on 1st degree murder at the Federal level would rightly be seen as an egregious miscarriage of justice and hold the US up to ridicule.
It was so sad to see Floyd dying from a overdose of drugs but sad to, to see the police doing their job training. Hope the trial comes out ok, and there's no more rioting and killing police.
If Derek Chauvin was a dog, he is a rabid dog. Rabid dogs are menaces to society and are to be dealt with. You either lock them up or put them down. Chauvin should be treated as a rabid dog. If the legal system fails and he walks (and he isn't locked up), he will face street justice and will be put down like the mangy rabid mutt he is.
I heard this street justice mularkey about George Zimmerman and he's still alive eight years after the trial.
2nd degree murder is what you mean. But the feds will bring the bigger charges.
Why are the feds involved anyway? As far as I can tell, they have no jurisdiction here. That alone will get the case thrown out.
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but sad to, to see the police doing their job training. Hope the trial comes out ok, and there's no more rioting and killing police.