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Old 04-16-2021, 02:22 PM
 
Location: USA
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Chicago, let it die a slow Democrat death. Sad, but they voted for it.
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Old 04-16-2021, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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My dad is a retired cop. It bothers me when the media pushes “unarmed”. At least they aren’t doing it on this case too much. Unarmed doesn’t mean you won’t get shot. If a cop tells you to freeze and you reach in your pocket, you will probably get shot. If you break in my house and I catch you and you start reaching in your bag, I ain’t waiting to see what exactly you are reaching for. The term “unarmed” is kind of misleading.
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Old 04-16-2021, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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My dad is a retired cop. It bothers me when the media pushes “unarmed”. At least they aren’t doing it on this case too much. Unarmed doesn’t mean you won’t get shot. If a cop tells you to freeze and you reach in your pocket, you will probably get shot. If you break in my house and I catch you and you start reaching in your bag, I ain’t waiting to see what exactly you are reaching for. The term “unarmed” is kind of misleading.
Did you read the links on the last page I posted? Or that the other poster did?

NPR, USA Today, etc.

Saying the cop shot an unarmed boy with his hands up.
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Old 04-16-2021, 03:53 PM
 
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My dad is a retired cop. It bothers me when the media pushes “unarmed”. At least they aren’t doing it on this case too much. Unarmed doesn’t mean you won’t get shot. If a cop tells you to freeze and you reach in your pocket, you will probably get shot. If you break in my house and I catch you and you start reaching in your bag, I ain’t waiting to see what exactly you are reaching for. The term “unarmed” is kind of misleading.
right. So I can run into a store with a gun, shoot 20 people, then just as the cops are about to shoot me, drop the gun, now I'm unarmed!!!

The spin on this story is despicable. And if you REALLY want to her crazy, go see some of the viewpoints on these incident on Reddit. My god do a lot of people have a vitriolic emotional irrational hatred of cops out there. It's really like a collective psychosis or mass hysteria.
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Old 04-16-2021, 03:59 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This is a tough one. I watched the body cam. It’s the opposite of most shootings where the cop seems justified in shooting then the cop just farts around while the person bleeds to death. The kid did have a gun. He also did have his hands up when he was shot. But the interval was short. The cop tried his best afterwards to help him.
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Old 04-16-2021, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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This is a tough one. I watched the body cam. It’s the opposite of most shootings where the cop seems justified in shooting then the cop just farts around while the person bleeds to death. The kid did have a gun. He also did have his hands up when he was shot. But the interval was short. The cop tried his best afterwards to help him.
We used to call this trigger happy. The cop could have protected himself without killing the 13yr old.
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Old 04-16-2021, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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We used to call this trigger happy. The cop could have protected himself without killing the 13yr old.
No.

The cop had a literal split second to make a judgement call - I will guarantee you in his head it was either the person with the gun or him.

He made the right and justifiable decision.

The only person I feel sorry for is the cop.

And I am completely disgusted by the OBVIOUS bias of the majority of the media reporting that the Chgo cop shot an unarmed kid with his hands up. It's disingenuous and outright dangerous - it's horrible and false reporting that only inflames the entire situation.
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Old 04-16-2021, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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From the OP link, quote for his mother (my italics) on the GoFundMe page:

"Adam had many dreams that he will never get to live out," Elizabeth Toledo, Adam's mother, wrote in a GoFundMe page. "Ironically one of his dreams was to become a police officer."

Toledo wrote that "another angel gained his wings way to soon." Adam enjoyed playing with legos and telling jokes, she wrote.


Mama's little darling was out at 2:30 a.m. carrying a gun, but maybe he was just practicing for his future career as a police officer. (Yeah, right.)

It seems to me that Mama was either totally clueless and/or is trying to spin her son's death into an opportunity for profit. Either way, I don't think she will be a candidate for "Mother of the Year."



and WTF is a 13 year old, 7th grader doing out of the house, in an alley, with a gun, at 2:am???


I want to know...
and what did the Mother have to say about her sons where abouts ?


she either must not care, is totally dumb and has her head up her azzz....
but as a parent, how the e***** do you not know your 13 year old is NOT in the house.


shame on the mother, shame on her
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Old 04-16-2021, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No.

The cop had a literal split second to make a judgement call - I will guarantee you in his head it was either the person with the gun or him.

He made the right and justifiable decision.

The only person I feel sorry for is the cop.

And I am completely disgusted by the OBVIOUS bias of the majority of the media reporting that the Chgo cop shot an unarmed kid with his hands up. It's disingenuous and outright dangerous - it's horrible and false reporting that only inflames the entire situation.
Agreed, the boy had the gun in his hand, and a split second later spins around.

It's tragic. Firstly because gangs are talking young boys into picking up guns to commit murder, and secondly because he was too young to realize the danger he presented to the officer. A few more years of experience and the boy would have frozen, slowly raised his hands when told to, then slowly and deliberately followed every direction from the officer.
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Old 04-16-2021, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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This is crazy! It’s almost like they are doing this on purpose. They make it seem like he was just your everyday 13 yr old going on his daily 2:30 stroll and playing with his r/c cars while singing the latest Disney theme song.

On The Munsters, Lilly says: Don't all young boys howl at the moon???




and don't all 13 year old boys "stroll" around down alleys at 2AM???


I agree, this was not an everyday young boy thing, I should know, I had 3 young boys, and trust me, at 13, they were in bed....NOT out.


Shame on the Mother, shame on her
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