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Most people who have "gotten ill" are experiencing what is known as "reactogenicity", which is a known effect of any vaccine. It is caused by activation of the immune system. It's not dangerous, though it can make some people miserable for a few days and it does not justify pausing giving the vaccines.
Like the J&J shot, serious adverse reactions are rare. Did anybody stop administering the shots over this?
Ever since I've tried to get the shot, it's always either Moderna or Pfizer that has been pushed. When I ask about J&J I hear that they don't know if they will ever get any doses.
You can bet everyone has been looking for more cases. Perhaps they are investigating six because that is all that have been found.
The 6 are very unusual. Low platelets and brain clots - cerebral venous sinus thrombosis - in young women. Not something seen anywhere with any frequency.
"The claim that DMX received a COVID-19 vaccine a week before his heart attack is FALSE, based on our research. DMX's attorney Murray Richman confirmed that did not receive a COVID-19 vaccine a week before his cardiac arrest. Even if the rapper did receive the vaccine at one point, it is misleading to claim that the shot was the cause of his death. The CDC states that it has not identified a correlation between reported patient deaths and COVID-19 vaccines. Further, the only source of information for this claim is an unverified anonymous family member."
You can bet everyone has been looking for more cases. Perhaps they are investigating six because that is all that have been found.
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He wasn't sure if DMX received the vaccine before that period; New York residents 50 and older were eligible beginning March 22.
I know probably a dozen people who received the Moderna vax who've gotten pretty ill for about 24-72 hours after the second shot - 101+ fever, chills, headache, body aches, etc. After every single one they hear: "that's great! it just means the vaccine is working!!"
That is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard anyone say ... and I spend a large chunk of time reading posts here.
I agree it is incredibly stupid. Nobody should be happy that they just provoked an atypical immune response that has bypassed multiple checkpoints in the immune system by bypassing the cellular responses of the integumentary system & mucous membranes ("typical" viral exposure).
"Yay, Inflammatory Cytokines!" ... Said nobody ever.
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Clotting with 6 cases out of 6.8 million Johnson and Johnson vaccines given. And yet they pause the vaccine which just proves how safe vaccines are. What other things would they actually pause if there was an incident with only 6 out of 6.8 million? Likely nothing.
Get your vaccine already folks. Your holding us back as a country.
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SIX cases out of 7 milllion. The CDC and FDA wants to halt it out of caution, but I think it is important to just keep vaccinating people as COVID is worse. If the amount of people with blood clots keep rising, then we stop.
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From: "Bahh we don't need masks the chances of mortality from covid in my age group is 0.5% only 1 in 200"
To: "OMG 6 cases out of almost 7 million doses, I told you these vaccines were too dangerous to be used!"
Who said there were only 6 cases? The FDA et al said:
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As of April 12, more than 6.8 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) vaccine have been administered in the U.S. CDC and FDA are reviewing data involving six reported U.S. cases of a rare and severe type of blood clot in individuals after receiving the J&J vaccine.
"Reviewing six cases." Not "there have been 6 confirmed cases". Do you really think they would risk increasing hesitancy over SIX cases?
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No, I did not sign any such form.
The consent for waiver of liability is a given, when you sign a consent for vaccines. Any & all vaccines.
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Yep...most on here don't remember POLIO and the Jonas Salk vaccine that most took to end the pandemic!
And most here don't know that Polio vaccine was contaminated with SV40, a cancer causing virus from the kidney cells used in the seed lots from infected Rhesus monkeys! Although most people here know what a curse cancer has become since 1955; most don't even realize why!
We traded a virus with a 5% mortality rate for cancers, some of which have a 95% fatality rate. Yay vaccines.
The 6 are very unusual. Low platelets and brain clots - cerebral venous sinus thrombosis - in young women. Not something seen anywhere with any frequency.
There is no such thing as a perfectly safe vaccine. All vaccines have side effects and sometimes they are fatal. This incidence is nothing. It is risk vs reward, not do NO harm. It is not enough statistically significant enough to be evaluated. It is safe to say that hundreds of people who would have been vaccinated with J&J, particularly what they call vulnerable people, will die because of this delay. That is real harm.
The 6 are very unusual. Low platelets and brain clots - cerebral venous sinus thrombosis - in young women. Not something seen anywhere with any frequency.
Like the J&J shot, serious adverse reactions are rare. Did anybody stop administering the shots over this?
Ever since I've tried to get the shot, it's always either Moderna or Pfizer that has been pushed. When I ask about J&J I hear that they don't know if they will ever get any doses.
Not over allergic reactions because those are possible with any vaccine and it is known why they happen. Would you expect to stop administering penicillin because someone had an allergic reaction to it?
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Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't.
If he did then anything that happens after the shot must absolutely positively be due to the shot, right? No possibility of any other cause?
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I agree it is incredibly stupid. Nobody should be happy that they just provoked an atypical immune response that has bypassed multiple checkpoints in the immune system by bypassing the cellular responses of the integumentary system & mucous membranes ("typical" viral exposure).
"Yay, Inflammatory Cytokines!" ... Said nobody ever.
No viruses are acquired through the skin? Ever heard of herpes?
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Who said there were only 6 cases? The FDA et al said:
"Reviewing six cases." Not "there have been 6 confirmed cases". Do you really think they would risk increasing hesitancy over SIX cases?
The vaccines are under intense scrutiny. What would be the point in hiding cases?
There really is no need for a conspiracy theory.
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The consent for waiver of liability is a given, when you sign a consent for vaccines. Any & all vaccines.
There is an alternative system for compensating people who have adverse reactions to vaccines, as you well know. Why should the vaccine maker be sued for something that happened to six people and not millions of others?
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And most here don't know that Polio vaccine was contaminated with SV40, a cancer causing virus from the kidney cells used in the seed lots from infected Rhesus monkeys! Although most people here know what a curse cancer has become since 1955; most don't even realize why!
We traded a virus with a 5% mortality rate for cancers, some of which have a 95% fatality rate. Yay vaccines.
Yes, you are indeed confused. Sorry, your vaccine scapegoating attempt fails.
SV40 was present in cancers of people who either had or had not received the polio vaccines that were contaminated with SV40.
SV40 has not been present in any vaccine since 1963.
People with cancers who were born after 1963, when SV40 was no longer a contaminant of the polio vaccine, were found to have evidence for SV40 in their cancerous cells.
Epidemiologic studies do not show an increased risk of cancers in those who received polio vaccine between 1955 and 1963.
Taken together, these findings do not support the hypothesis that SV40 virus contained in polio vaccines administered before 1963 caused cancers.
There is no such thing as a perfectly safe vaccine. All vaccines have side effects and sometimes they are fatal. This incidence is nothing. It is risk vs reward, not do NO harm. It is not enough statistically significant enough to be evaluated. It is safe to say that hundreds of people who would have been vaccinated with J&J, particularly what they call vulnerable people, will die because of this delay. That is real harm.
That certainly could be true. The whole risk vs benefit is a difficult one. Most likely there will be a delay of some days while the medical powers that be decide on what to do next. IMO they will resume the vaccinations, excluding younger females. Maybe in a few days the data will give them some more specific clue as to why the vaccine may be causing this unusual side effect. if it is indeed a side effect at all.
You do know that birth control pills cause this exact condition a much higher percentage of the time and so does COVID-19 itself?
And that may be the key as far as vaccine risk stratification. An easy one!
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Who said there were only 6 cases? The FDA et al said: 
