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Old 04-29-2021, 04:28 PM
 
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You really don't understand the concept or purpose of a vaccine do you? Every year there are people who take the flu vaccine that still contract the flu. Basic jr high science truly escapes a lot of folks on here.
A better way to put that is that I do not perceive a positive value to taking inoculations that monkey up my immunity system on one hand, and routinely do not serve the purpose for which they are purportedly advertised on the other.
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:28 PM
 
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These vaccines probably only provide 2-3 month protection. They are "feel good" vaccines for the public for more control. All you can really do is hope to keep hospitalizations/deaths down
They are already proven past the 6 month mark. ANd they do hold serious disease, hospitalizations and deaths down.

I can personally attest that the Moderna vaccine does not 'feel good'. Especially if you've already had Covid!
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:30 PM
 
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Hope springs eternal..

But Israel got a large amount of people vaccinated early on and they are still suffering cases and deaths there... in numbers that aren't exactly small for them.
Israel numbers are now way down and improved. At least one day with zero deaths this past week.
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:31 PM
 
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Hope springs eternal..

But Israel got a large amount of people vaccinated early on and they are still suffering cases and deaths there... in numbers that aren't exactly small for them.
What? Cases in Israel have been under 300 per day for nearly a month, and deaths have been under about 10 per day. At the peak of the pandemic, they were over 8,000 cases per day and over 60 deaths. They currently have about 1,500 active cases versus over 80,000 at the peak.
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:36 PM
 
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What? Cases in Israel have been under 300 per day for nearly a month, and deaths have been under about 10 per day. At the peak of the pandemic, they were over 8,000 cases per day and over 60 deaths. They currently have about 1,500 active cases versus over 80,000 at the peak.
Well the USA has had less... no doubt and Israel started with less.

But in theory, by now, they should be having zero cases and zero deaths.... and they aren't..

I wonder what the weather is like in Israel right now. (hint -- warm)
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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An Arizona legislator, Rep. Alma Hernandez, who was inoculated two months ago and who also routinely wears a mask, practices social distancing and practices good hygiene, has contracted the coronavirus.

So all of that did not protect her. At the end of the day, it is up to her God given immunity system to protect her from this virus, come what may.

So much for the "experts".
They swabbed her nose and they found some virus cells? Big deal. If they swabbed her forehead she might have tested positive that way also. Testing positive for having cells up your nose is not the same thing is being clinically infected.

Geez, follow the science, how about. Getting the vaccination does not mean you can never breath in virus cells up your nose anymore. Getting the vaccine means if you do breath in the virus, your body rejects it, like you hanging up on a robo call trying to to sell car insurance.

Millions of people tested positive for this damn virus and nothing ever came from it, because they were never infected.
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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They are already proven past the 6 month mark. ANd they do hold serious disease, hospitalizations and deaths down.

I can personally attest that the Moderna vaccine does not 'feel good'. Especially if you've already had Covid!
I took my second dose of that vaccine, and I had a low grade fever the first night, and nothing since.
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:41 PM
 
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They swabbed her nose and they found some virus cells? Big deal. If they swabbed her forehead she might have tested positive that way also. Testing positive for having cells up your nose is not the same thing is being clinically infected.

Geez, follow the science, how about. Getting the vaccination does not mean you can never breath in virus cells up your nose anymore. Getting the vaccine means if you do breath in the virus, your body rejects it, like you hanging up on a robo call trying to to sell car insurance.

Millions of people tested positive for this damn virus and nothing ever came from it, because they were never infected.
From the article:
'She said her symptoms included fever and a migraine headache. She also lost the abilities to taste and smell. Hernandez said she was quarantining at her Phoenix home, where she would remain for the next week.'
Is that scientific enough for you?
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:42 PM
 
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They swabbed her nose and they found some virus cells? Big deal. If they swabbed her forehead she might have tested positive that way also. Testing positive for having cells up your nose is not the same thing is being clinically infected.

Geez, follow the science, how about. Getting the vaccination does not mean you can never breath in virus cells up your nose anymore. Getting the vaccine means if you do breath in the virus, your body rejects it, like you hanging up on a robo call trying to to sell car insurance.

Millions of people tested positive for this damn virus and nothing ever came from it, because they were never infected.
I'm not her doc, but more than likely with sudden loss of smell/taste, she got the Covid!
Of course as she is vaccinated her risk for serious disease is low.
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I highly doubt this is true. EVERYONE at your job who got it had to be hospitalized? I probably know 200 people who got vaccinated and ZERO have had symptoms worse than a day or two of flu-like symptoms (and only a few have even had that). Most had just a sore arm or a bit of a chill or a mild headache.
Of course it's not true.

If "everybody at his job" had to be hospitalized... and that were a legitimate thing relative to the rest of the country... the hospitals in the country would be packed with people suffering from COVID vaccine reactions.

Speaks volumes about that particular workplace though. Either that place has some really bad Mojo or there are a bunch of hypochondriacs working there.
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