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Planned Parenthood does not do abortions. They provide counseling and referrals.
Yes, they do:
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"There are two kinds of abortion in the U.S. — in-clinic abortion and the abortion pill. Some Planned Parenthood health centers provide one or both kinds of abortion."
And they specifically target minority women. 79% of PP's surgical abortion facilities are located in/near majority African American or Hispanic/Latino neighborhoods. Consequently, Black women have the highest abortion rate, followed by Hispanic women.
Where are we, in elementary school? Lets take a look at your 'gotcha' moment you have in blue.
Would it have been more appropriate to say 'the identity of "what" you are rather than "what" you are is more important'..........? No that wouldn't make any sense. Besides, the word "what" also means people in your definition.
I suppose I could have said 'the identity of you rather than the development of you is more important'.........., but that likely wouldn't have driven you to the dictionary to look up one word meanings.
Strange, of all the times I used the word "you" in relation to the fertilized egg, you never accused me of saying it was a person. In fact even now you are not accusing me of saying it was a person, but asserting so. Big whoop.
I am not concerned with your assertions. The context of my entire post proves your assertions false. I will let readers come to their own conclusion,
Out of the entire post, this is what you come up with?
You specifically state that who a fetus is, is more important that what a fetus is. That is a direct assertion that a fetus is a person. That is your position. As such, since the who trumps the what, and the who, you assert, commences at conception, you are stating that a fertilized egg is a person. If it were simply accidental misuse of a pronoun, we’d ignore it. But it is an intentional declaration. The who is more important than the what in the early weeks of pregnancy. That is what you said, and that is your position.
Don’t run and hide from your incoherence. Embrace it like all the other mystics.
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If the man raped the woman, do you think he has a say?
Until a person has experienced pregnancy, he doesn't know what he is talking about. So no, he doesn't have a say.
The fetus is not a person, and has no opinion. The man can have an opinion, but no say. The woman carrying the fertilized egg has all the say, unless she gives some of that to someone else. But it is hers to give, and hers to deny.
And they specifically target minority women. 79% of PP's surgical abortion facilities are located in/near majority African American or Hispanic/Latino neighborhoods. Consequently, Black women have the highest abortion rate, followed by Hispanic women.
Source: Population Group Lifetime Abortion Rates, American Journal of Public Health, 2017
Abortion is racist. It's a manifestation of white supremacy. Think very carefully about that fact.
This is nonsense, and doesn’t matter anyway since abortion is correct, rational, beneficial, and good if an accidental fertilization needs to be rectified.
That has already been legally established both legislatively and in the courts as true: fetal homicide laws.
Homicide: the killing of one human by another
Then fine, killing first trimester humans is allowed. Because we have laws that allow it. I’m fine with whatever warped word games you want to play, as long as abortion remains an option in my country.
In the event of accidental or unintentional fertilization, abortion to rectify it is rational, moral, beneficial, and good. We are lucky it was invented and is a safe option to give women control of their reproduction.
This is nonsense, and doesn’t matter anyway since abortion is correct, rational, beneficial, and good if an accidental fertilization needs to be rectified.
Killing a fetus is "correct?" Fetal homicide laws contradict that belief. For example, the killer will be prosecuted for fetal homicide if she/he kills a fetus which was the result of an "accidental fertilization."
Theoretically, there is no such thing as "accidental fertilization" given the purely scientific fact that pregnancy is a known possible consequence of male-female sex regardless of whether or not a form of contraception was used. Both parties accept pregnancy as a possible consequence when they choose to have sex. That's why men have to pay child support for 18+ years. He chose to participate in an action that may result in a child for whom he is responsible.
Then fine, killing first trimester humans is allowed.
Killing by anyone, yes. That actually would have to be allowed because otherwise, fetal homicide laws are unconstitutional (violates Equal Protection Clause) in that they create a protected class that has the legal right to commit homicide while others will be prosecuted for doing the same.
Killing a fetus is "correct?" Fetal homicide laws contradict that belief. For example, the killer will be prosecuted for fetal homicide if she/he kills a fetus which was the result of an "accidental fertilization."
Theoretically, there is no such thing as "accidental fertilization" given the purely scientific fact that pregnancy is a known possible consequence of male-female sex regardless of whether or not a form of contraception was used. Both parties accept pregnancy as a possible consequence when they choose to have sex. That's why men have to pay child support for 18+ years. He chose to participate in an action that may result in a child for whom he is responsible.
Accidents are still possible even when we know they are a risk. We still drive cars. And I said “accidental or unintentional”. If fertilization is not intended, we need to be able to rectify it. Abortion is a good option to reverse the unintended consequence.
Killing by anyone, yes. That actually would have to be allowed because otherwise, fetal homicide laws are unconstitutional (violates Equal Protection Clause) in that they create a protected class that has the legal right to commit homicide while others will be prosecuted for doing the same.
Fetal homicide laws are just bad laws. They reflect an emotional desire to punish those who assault or kill pregnant women. We can change them, and address the punishment in the sentencing phase. They are a mistake. Because a law is passed regarding a phenomenon does not make that law reflective of what is real or true.
Hate speech laws are another example of bad laws. We pass bad laws all the time. You are hanging your hat on a bad law to make a bad point.
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