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Old 05-28-2021, 09:13 PM
 
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I'm so sick of this abortion argument. Abortion has been around since ancient times and always will be whether you make it illegal or not. So I'm really not understanding the point of going to back alleys abortions again which will absolutely happen. Roe v Wade made it safe and it should stay safe. If some are so against abortion then stop complaining about those on food stamps and welfare. Or better yet, adopt the hundred of thousands of kids already in foster care.
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Old 05-28-2021, 09:45 PM
 
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No a woman can have a baby when she wants. Life circumstances change. A woman doesn’t have to tie her tubes unless she knows she doesn’t ever want children. You suggest 2 surgeries, one to tie tubes another to hopefully reverse later? A woman giving birth against her will is barbaric.
I am not suggesting a reversal. If she later decides a child is what she wants in her life, an IVF can be done. If the number of surgeries concern you, it is reported around half the women who have abortions have had at least one previously. They must not mind.
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Old 05-28-2021, 09:57 PM
 
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I think there is an epistemological disconnect, regarding abortion.

One side says it is wrong: Well, why is it wrong?

One side says it is right: Well, why is it right?

If both sides can't agree on an objective standard for what is 'right' and what is 'wrong', then we're reduced to subjective absurdity, and the argument won't end.
You are correct, the argument won't end. It didn't end in 1973 when the court made its ruling, it won't end if the court reverses its ruling (which I don't think will happen).
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Old 05-28-2021, 09:59 PM
 
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No. The reason it won’t end is because one side refuses to identify objective reality. One side is pretending one thing is another and the Law of Identity doesn’t exist. And that side, motivated most of the time by mystical indoctrination, is the anti-choice side.
anti-choice side, pro-death side, the beat goes on.
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:08 PM
 
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I am not suggesting a reversal. If she later decides a child is what she wants in her life, an IVF can be done. If the number of surgeries concern you, it is reported around half the women who have abortions have had at least one previously. They must not mind.
How ridiculous. tie tubes, do IVF. How much money does this cost. You complicate matters. You mind your sperm women can mind their own uterus.
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:09 PM
 
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anti-choice side, pro-death side, the beat goes on.
Pro death? Do you support the death penalty?
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:11 PM
 
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Make that bank, Marc.

Money, money, money

Of course! Money is the root of all good.
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:12 PM
 
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Pro death? Do you support the death penalty?
Do you?
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:14 PM
 
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Do you?
For some crimes yes. Do you?
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:17 PM
 
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For some crimes yes. Do you?
No.

We've all received the death penalty.
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