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Old 05-29-2021, 07:56 AM
 
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Odd, then, how no one has abolished fetal homicide laws in the US. Either anyone can kill a fetus, or no one can: US Constitution Equal Protection Clause.
You don’t understand the Equal Protection Clause. Abortion is legal, so homicide is fine in abortion circumstances.
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:04 AM
 
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You don’t understand the Equal Protection Clause. Abortion is legal, so homicide is fine in abortion circumstances.
If a mother and others (abortionists, etc.) can legally kill a fetus, why can't the father kill it, as well? Or any other person who has an interest in preventing the existence of the child? Equal Protection Clause. Either anyone can kill a fetus, or no one can.
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:18 AM
 
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That's exactly the point. Why make supply more available where there's less demand? Because PP, white supremacists that they are, are deliberately targeting minority women for higher abortion rates.
Get real just because there’s a clinic in your area doesn’t mean it makes more women abort. Lots of people avoid McDonald’s and they’re all over the place.
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:21 AM
 
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In fact, it is. Pregnancy is a KNOWN possible outcome of choosing to have sex. Just like getting in a car accident is a KNOWN possible consequence of choosing to either drive or ride in a car. People deliberately make the choice to accept those possible outcomes, respectively, every time they choose either.

Then how is it that courts can order men to pay child support? Why can't they just walk away from the responsibility of a child like women can? Good for the goose = good for the gander. Make it legal for either to choose to not have to bear the responsibility, financially or otherwise.
Risks? Sure it doesn’t stop most people from having sex or driving a car. You can look on abortion as a way to correct an outcome just as insurance pays for car accidents. Every single mom I know has never got support even when it was ordered by the courts. Men do walk away everyday
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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What 'crimes' has the human life growing inside a woman committed?....other than being the result of (likely unprotected) sex. Those who believe that worthy of capital punishment are among the pro-death group I mention as they support and at times encourage the death penalty for said life. If you don't want it, don't create it.
A woman has autonomy. It’s her choice if she wants to remain pregnant.
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:26 AM
 
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If a mother and others (abortionists, etc.) can legally kill a fetus, why can't the father kill it, as well? Or any other person who has an interest in preventing the existence of the child? Equal Protection Clause. Either anyone can kill a fetus, or no one can.
How hard is it to understand a woman controls her own body just as a man. No one has the right to kill a living breathing already born person.
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:38 AM
 
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Get real just because there’s a clinic in your area doesn’t mean it makes more women abort. Lots of people avoid McDonald’s and they’re all over the place.
Then what is making Black women abort at the highest rate, given the fact that they have the greatest access to taxpayer-funded free contraception services via Medicaid, etc.?

If you refuse to accept the fact that PP specifically targets Black (and Hispanic) women for greater rates of abortion by locating in their neighborhoods even though White women are PP's most numerous abortion clients/patients, you're going down a road that blames Black women for being stupid, irresponsible, or both, thereby incurring the highest abortion rate.

In other words... Why is the group who has the most access to free taxpayer-funded contraception services the least likely to use it, and instead prefers to choose a method of birth control (abortion) that the majority of Americans as well as the majority of Blacks find morally unacceptable?

1) PP deliberately targets minority women for the greatest rate of abortion, which falls in line with their decades-long history of white supremacy.

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2) Black women are just stupid and/or irresponsible despite being given free contraception services, hence their higher unwanted pregnancy and abortion rate.
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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Risks? Sure it doesn’t stop most people from having sex or driving a car. You can look on abortion as a way to correct an outcome just as insurance pays for car accidents.
Which is exactly why the father or any other interested party should be able to legally kill a fetus, as well. Fetal homicide laws are unconstitutional. Either anyone can kill a fetus, or no one can.
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:43 AM
 
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Then what is making Black women abort at the highest rate, given the fact that they have the greatest access to taxpayer-funded free contraception services via Medicaid, etc.?

If you refuse to accept the fact that PP specifically targets Black (and Hispanic) women for greater rates of abortion by locating in their neighborhoods even though White women are PP's most numerous abortion clients/patients, you're going down a road that blames Black women for being stupid, irresponsible, or both, thereby incurring the highest abortion rate.

In other words... Why is the group who has the most access to free taxpayer-funded contraception services the least likely to use it, and instead prefers to choose a method of birth control (abortion) that the majority of Americans as well as the majority of Blacks find morally unacceptable?

1) PP deliberately targets minority women for the greatest rate of abortion, which falls in line with their decades-long history of white supremacy.

Or...

2) Black women are just stupid and/or irresponsible despite being given free contraception services, hence their higher unwanted pregnancy and abortion rate.
Women of any ethnic background abort for similar reasons. Clinics are usually in a big cities. Again just because one is in the neighborhood won’t make women who want to give birth, suddenly want abortion. All women are intelligent enough to know what abortion is and does.
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:46 AM
 
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How hard is it to understand a woman controls her own body just as a man. No one has the right to kill a living breathing already born person.
It ceases being just her own body when the fetus has a separate legal right to life. Fetal homicide laws codified that right both legislatively and via the courts.
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