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Old 05-29-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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Women of any ethnic background abort for similar reasons.
That can't possibly be true or the abortion rates wouldn't diverge so much, based on race.
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Old 05-29-2021, 03:20 PM
 
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It ceases being just her own body when the fetus has a separate legal right to life. Fetal homicide laws codified that right both legislatively and via the courts.
You are wrong here because abortion is legal. Therefore there is no such right.
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Old 05-29-2021, 03:24 PM
 
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Which is exactly why the father or any other interested party should be able to legally kill a fetus, as well. Fetal homicide laws are unconstitutional. Either anyone can kill a fetus, or no one can.
This is incorrect. Women have the right to abortion without the permission of anyone, man or woman. It happens every day and is standard operating procedure. You declaring something doesn’t make it real or true. The sperm donor cannot remove the fertilized egg. The women carrying the fertilized egg can. There is no equality, but there is reality.
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Old 05-29-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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Then what is making Black women abort at the highest rate, given the fact that they have the greatest access to taxpayer-funded free contraception services via Medicaid, etc.?

If you refuse to accept the fact that PP specifically targets Black (and Hispanic) women for greater rates of abortion by locating in their neighborhoods even though White women are PP's most numerous abortion clients/patients, you're going down a road that blames Black women for being stupid, irresponsible, or both, thereby incurring the highest abortion rate.

In other words... Why is the group who has the most access to free taxpayer-funded contraception services the least likely to use it, and instead prefers to choose a method of birth control (abortion) that the majority of Americans as well as the majority of Blacks find morally unacceptable?

1) PP deliberately targets minority women for the greatest rate of abortion, which falls in line with their decades-long history of white supremacy.

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2) Black women are just stupid and/or irresponsible despite being given free contraception services, hence their higher unwanted pregnancy and abortion rate.
64% of pregnancies to black women occur out of wedlock. The figure is 18% for white pregnancies. That is why the abortion rate is higher.
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Old 05-29-2021, 03:30 PM
 
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You are wrong here because abortion is legal. Therefore there is no such right.
That should be challenged in court. Either a fetus has a right to life, which is true according to US fetal homicide laws, or it doesn't, which is what the pro-abortion contingent believes. Can't have it both ways.
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Old 05-29-2021, 03:32 PM
 
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Then what is making Black women abort at the highest rate, given the fact that they have the greatest access to taxpayer-funded free contraception services via Medicaid, etc.?

If you refuse to accept the fact that PP specifically targets Black (and Hispanic) women for greater rates of abortion by locating in their neighborhoods even though White women are PP's most numerous abortion clients/patients, you're going down a road that blames Black women for being stupid, irresponsible, or both, thereby incurring the highest abortion rate.

In other words... Why is the group who has the most access to free taxpayer-funded contraception services the least likely to use it, and instead prefers to choose a method of birth control (abortion) that the majority of Americans as well as the majority of Blacks find morally unacceptable?

1) PP deliberately targets minority women for the greatest rate of abortion, which falls in line with their decades-long history of white supremacy.

Or...

2) Black women are just stupid and/or irresponsible despite being given free contraception services, hence their higher unwanted pregnancy and abortion rate.
Nobody targets anyone. Individual people make decisions, get pregnant, and face the consequences. Race doesn’t matter. Decisions matter. And individuals make decisions. If you don’t like the decisions being made, take it up with those deciding to have sex out of wedlock.
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Old 05-29-2021, 03:33 PM
 
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This is incorrect. Women have the right to abortion without the permission of anyone, man or woman. It happens every day and is standard operating procedure. You declaring something doesn’t make it real or true. The sperm donor cannot remove the fertilized egg. The women carrying the fertilized egg can. There is no equality, but there is reality.
Exactly. If the mother can legally kill a fetus but the father cannot, that's a violation of the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause.
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Old 05-29-2021, 03:42 PM
 
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Nobody targets anyone. Individual people make decisions, get pregnant, and face the consequences. Race doesn’t matter.
Race does matter. To the point that Black leaders such as Jesse Jackson acknowledge that abortion is Black genocide due to Black women's much higher abortion rate. The extraordinarily high abortion rates among minorities is a particularly ugly manifestation of white supremacy, but the lefties just love it. Go figure.

"More black babies are aborted in NYC than born."

True.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...are-aborted-n/
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Old 05-29-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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Race does matter. To the point that Black leaders such as Jesse Jackson acknowledge that abortion is Black genocide due to Black women's much higher abortion rate. The extraordinarily high abortion rates among minorities is a particularly ugly manifestation of white supremacy, but the lefties just love it. Go figure.

"More black babies are aborted in NYC than born."

True.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...are-aborted-n/
The higher rate is due to individuals deciding to have sex out of wedlock at a very high rate. Jesse Jackson is wrong, you are wrong, and the people having unprotected sex out of wedlock are wrong. Decisions have consequences. Reality. Getting pregnant out of wedlock has consequences. Reality. Better decisions will lead to better outcomes. Reality.
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Old 05-29-2021, 04:04 PM
 
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Exactly. If the mother can legally kill a fetus but the father cannot, that's a violation of the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause.
No it’s not. If it was, the law would allow men to mandate abortions for women. That does not happen. Abortion is legal. Men don’t decide pregnancy outcomes. Reality. That’s the way it is. Reality. Open your eyes to reality.
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